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Britain gave Palantir access to sensitive COVID-19 patient records in £1 deal

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Re: Britain gave Palantir access to sensitive COVID-19 patient records in £1 deal

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I think many people talk about it but from a different context. The NHS is being de-funded by the same politicians whose friends benefit from these deals. Hard to hire competent people when your budget keeps getting cut.

£136.7 billion seems like a lot. It also seems like it's been exponentially going up since 1950.

Compare that to systems which are not nationalised.

Re: Britain gave Palantir access to sensitive COVID-19 patient records in £1 deal

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In English Law (and in many other jurisdictions) it's only a legal contract if "consideration" is given by both parties; i.e. Palantir here must charge something in return for it to be an enforceable contract.

The UK is still under EU law, as they haven't fully exited yet.

The citizens would still have to agree to allowing their personal data to be processed by third-parties and consent for their data to be processed outside the EU.

Is there any evidence that this consent was given?

Re: Britain gave Palantir access to sensitive COVID-19 patient records in £1 deal

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From my understanding Foundry (the Palantir product in question) is just a data management platform. I don't understand why this is so nefarious: they gave software they usually charge for to a public health agency for free.

The section on controversies is a primer. It certainly seems worth questioning the intent. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies

Palantir already works with a a huge number government agencies is my point. They're basically a contracting firm. If they had charged the NHS at least a few hundred thousand pounds it wouldn't have been newsworthy.

Re: Britain gave Palantir access to sensitive COVID-19 patient records in £1 deal

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think many people talk about it but from a different context. The NHS is being de-funded by the same politicians whose friends benefit from these deals. Hard to hire competent people when your budget keeps getting cut.

£136.7 billion seems like a lot. It also seems like it's been exponentially going up since 1950.

Healthcare spending per capital for G7, note how the UK has historically been at the bottom, way below Germany, let alone the u.s.

https://i.imgur.com/iab51Zq.png

From OECD https://data.oecd.org/healthres/health-spending.htm

Re: Britain gave Palantir access to sensitive COVID-19 patient records in £1 deal

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Sorry, they purchased it for £1? Now who's being "technically correct"?

>" Sorry, they purchased it for £1? Now who's being "technically correct"? " Palantir received one pound; the government paid Palantir for software. The title implies that the government was selling the data, but they were actually getting SaaS for a pittance.

The title could be fixed from "in £1 deal" to "as part of £1 deal".

No ambiguity there, although it doesn't adequately explain how that came about, but that's why there's an article.

Re: Britain gave Palantir access to sensitive COVID-19 patient records in £1 deal

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think many people talk about it but from a different context. The NHS is being de-funded by the same politicians whose friends benefit from these deals. Hard to hire competent people when your budget keeps getting cut.

£136.7 billion seems like a lot. It also seems like it's been exponentially going up since 1950.

It seems it was between 1997 and 2003 where spending on the NHS began to dramatically increase. I'm not sure it's fair to say that between 1950 and 1997 that it's growth was exponential.

https://www.ifs.org.uk/uploads/images/election2017_images/bn...

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9186

Perhaps a more fair statement to make would be that demand for NHS services has seen a dramatic increase since 1997 and as a consequence it's budget has seen dramatic adjustments.

Re: Britain gave Palantir access to sensitive COVID-19 patient records in £1 deal

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The UK is trusting an American national security-related firm with patient data, one that has to secretly accept any data access requests from the Americans. The UK should stick with their own companies for this sort of work - same for other countries

Re: Britain gave Palantir access to sensitive COVID-19 patient records in £1 deal

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That comes out to $2k/year/UK resident which is amazingly low I'd say. Staff are also limited to 1% salary increase per year since 2010 which is below inflation.

A little pedantic - England is not the UK and that budget quoted above was for England. The budget for all countries is larger, and England spends a bit less per citizen than Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. https://fullfact.org/health/what-is-the-nhs-budget/

Fair point although England is by far the majority of the population so per capita spend only goes up 20%. Still not a very high number and near the bottom for G7 nations.
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