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Bland God: Notes on Mark Zuckerberg (2018)

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Re: Bland God: Notes on Mark Zuckerberg (2018)

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Post by bredren »

This article specifically points out Zuckerberg's sweating at D8. This may have been a different instance, or I may be wrong.

But I seem to recall a story that at this event the temperature was turned up because Jobs was so sick. Can anyone else corroborate this? It may have been in Issacson's book.

edit: found it, it was at a dinner with Obama in Feb 2011: https://books.google.com/books?id=6e4cDvhrKhgC&pg=PA545&lpg=...

Re: Bland God: Notes on Mark Zuckerberg (2018)

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Post by setpatchaddress »

adjkant wrote: post #40
mcculley wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if one had the money to hire a bunch of people who understand why Trump one and had no moral code? Bloomberg had the money. He just wasn't enough of an asshole to appeal to the US voter.

> He just wasn't enough of an asshole to appeal to the US voter. Based on his marketing tactics I'm inclined to disagree there. IMO he also lacked the charisma that Zuckerberg would struggle with.

Let's be very clear. Bloomberg has a lot more charisma in public than Zuckerberg. And so does Hillary Clinton! That's not saying much! Any elected official above a certain level has some amount of charm.

Re: Bland God: Notes on Mark Zuckerberg (2018)

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Post by awa »

hashberry wrote: post #33

> Easier to conceive of Mark Zuckerberg as a machine. The memes of Zuckerberg as Data from Star Trek always amuse me.[0] Sure, it's teasing, but Data is a likable character! Data doesn't strive to be superior but to be more human, even if this means being analytical instead of emotional. Mark Zuckerberg would be far more interesting if he were "evil"--if he tried to create new values, if he tried to replace God. But…

Frankly, I would take a machine as an leader over a lot of other options we have. Predictability and lack of emotional outbursts would be great qualities to have in a leader.

Re: Bland God: Notes on Mark Zuckerberg (2018)

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Post by new2628 »

utkarsh_apoorva wrote: post #53
misiti3780 wrote: post #5

Does anyone really believe he could be elected president someday? (mentioned in the article)

I wanted say no, but we did get Trump. So Zuck being President seems like a real possibility.

They are very different though. One can be charismatic and charming, the other is bland and awkward.

Re: Bland God: Notes on Mark Zuckerberg (2018)

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Post by overgard »

ardy42 wrote: post #19
youeseh wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Charisma can be learned.

> Charisma can be learned. Did Hillary Clinton learn it? Of all the people in the world, she's probably the one who had the most incentive and motivation to "learn" charisma, if it was possible.

I think it's possible to learn it, but a lot of charisma comes from empathy and focus on others. Awkward people can be very charismatic if they give the vibe they care about you. True selflessness isn't something most politicians are really known for..

Re: Bland God: Notes on Mark Zuckerberg (2018)

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Post by foobar_ »

Facebook is a cheap replica of the internet. It already lost the young crowd, the middle crowd and the old crowd. It's non-us people that make up the majority of the platform now. It would have been a cemetery if Instagram and WhatsApp were not sold by the founders.

Re: Bland God: Notes on Mark Zuckerberg (2018)

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Post by nwienert »

utkarsh_apoorva wrote: post #53
misiti3780 wrote: post #5

Does anyone really believe he could be elected president someday? (mentioned in the article)

I wanted say no, but we did get Trump. So Zuck being President seems like a real possibility.

Being famous and rich is not what got Trump in and the factors that got him in would be somewhat different for a liberal. And in the general factors that matter for a president, Zuck has about 0 of the ones that matter (charisma, likeability, relatability, toughness, outspokenness, bluster, comedy, incisiveness, a relatable or admirable background, etc).

He’s a privileged rich white kid on the spectrum, I give less-than-Bloomberg chances (same charisma, less experience and relatability).

Re: Bland God: Notes on Mark Zuckerberg (2018)

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Post by pretendscholar »

youeseh wrote: post #17
ginko wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zuckerberg has the charisma of a fish though.

Charisma can be learned.

One of the harder things to learn because it isn't formulaic. You can't copy someone else's mannerisms outright you have to find your own style.
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