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Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by jacquesm »

doublesCs wrote: post #33
shiado wrote: post #16

The service that hosts the accounts of all branches of the US military, all major weapons contractors, all three letter agencies, and many foreign militaries, governments, and world leaders guilty of all manner of war crimes, and this is where they draw the line for violence. Really interesting.

The president is the most visible face of the government. Of all the ones you mentioned, it's the only one people actually vote for. What he says and does has the most impact. So I don't find it "interesting", I find it entirely reasonable.

People in the United States do not vote for a president. They vote for an elector who in turn will vote for the president. This is an important and often left out detail in how the American political system works, in theory it could have protected us from the current dumpster fire.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by slg »

shiado wrote: post #16

The service that hosts the accounts of all branches of the US military, all major weapons contractors, all three letter agencies, and many foreign militaries, governments, and world leaders guilty of all manner of war crimes, and this is where they draw the line for violence. Really interesting.

This is using past violence as a threat of imminent violence while the other accounts you mentioned will generally reference violence indirectly or in the past tense. That is an important distinction.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by 101404 »

doublesCs wrote: post #33
shiado wrote: post #16

The service that hosts the accounts of all branches of the US military, all major weapons contractors, all three letter agencies, and many foreign militaries, governments, and world leaders guilty of all manner of war crimes, and this is where they draw the line for violence. Really interesting.

The president is the most visible face of the government. Of all the ones you mentioned, it's the only one people actually vote for. What he says and does has the most impact. So I don't find it "interesting", I find it entirely reasonable.

Only if you think that there are only Americans in this world.

Hint: there are non-Americans too.

Downvotes? HN really thinks there are only Americans on this planet? Of dear.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by all2 »

jacquesm wrote: post #24
viraptor wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's not moving anywhere and any Twitter controversy gets more people to tweet about that controversy... Until he forces a significant part of his followers to leave, it's not a bad situation for Twitter to be in.

> Until he forces a significant part of his followers to leave, it's not a bad situation for Twitter to be in. That would be even better for Twitter.

Or worse, in terms of discourse. I suppose twitter is awful for something as complex as political debate, but removing an entire half of a political spectrum would only serve to further divide our country, something which the real demagogues of the world would love to capitalize on.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by djannzjkzxn »

jacquesm wrote: post #51
doublesCs wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The president is the most visible face of the government. Of all the ones you mentioned, it's the only one people actually vote for. What he says and does has the most impact. So I don't find it "interesting", I find it entirely reasonable.

People in the United States do not vote for a president. They vote for an elector who in turn will vote for the president. This is an important and often left out detail in how the American political system works, in theory it could have protected us from the current dumpster fire.

My ballot has the candidate’s name on it, not some elector. If electors conspired to change the outcome, the people would rightfully consider it nothing more than a coup, regardless of the 18th-century design of the electoral college.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by all2 »

noobermin wrote: post #42
danso wrote: post #2

Link to @realDonaldTrump tweet: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/12662311007807447... tweet text: > ....These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you! Disclaimer text: > This Tweet…

Why is this reply being downvoted? It is merely informative.

It shows the actual words, which are hard to spin. If we keep what was done vague, we can spin it any way we please.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by kortilla »

jacquesm wrote: post #51
doublesCs wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The president is the most visible face of the government. Of all the ones you mentioned, it's the only one people actually vote for. What he says and does has the most impact. So I don't find it "interesting", I find it entirely reasonable.

People in the United States do not vote for a president. They vote for an elector who in turn will vote for the president. This is an important and often left out detail in how the American political system works, in theory it could have protected us from the current dumpster fire.

It’s not actually that important. In many states it’s illegal for the elector to vote for something other than the popular vote and in the others it’s unheard of to go a different way and it would be made pretty quickly illegal if it happened.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by doublesCs »

noobermin wrote: post #42
danso wrote: post #2

Link to @realDonaldTrump tweet: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/12662311007807447... tweet text: > ....These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you! Disclaimer text: > This Tweet…

Why is this reply being downvoted? It is merely informative.

> Why is this reply being downvoted? It is merely informative.

Because this is HN. Expect some guidelines-lawyer to cite some section that was technically breached by that informative reply.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by 101404 »

midasz wrote: post #7

Wow. This man needs a lesson on how to deescalate a situation properly. Will this heavy handed approach really make people less angry? I doubt it..

The National Guard would go to stop violence, wouldn't it?

Pretty interesting how people even here try to invert the situation for political reasons.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by shitShitty »

The over-reaction here is just completely fucking stupid.

The statement that juxtaposed "looting/shooting" is akin to juxtaposing a combination not unlike "drunk driving/car wrecks" or "where smoke/there's fire" and the like.

But yeah, okay, just fly into apoplexy because you find the man tasteless and rude.

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