I’ve not seen such blanket downvoting in a comments section in a while. Is this a genuinely unpopular topic, are the comments unpopular, or is there brigading going on?
China’s Communist Party and Its American Media Enablers
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There's a monopoly angle here too [1]. I remember doing a face-palm when I watched "Gravity." The whole conflict centers around a cascade of space-junk caused by Russia shooting it's own spy satellite. In the movie, the Chinese space station saves the day. In reality, China actually shot down it's own satellite, rendering it's orbit and adjacent orbits unusable for the foreseeable future. [3] I'm all for internationa…
Lol. American movies also tend to romanticize the wars they wage.
Whataboutism, and false equivalence between movie makers distorting their own country's history (of which PRC is even more guilty than the US), and movie makers giving in to a foreign country's threats and whitewashing that country's crimes.
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#53I’ve not seen such blanket downvoting in a comments section in a while. Is this a genuinely unpopular topic, are the comments unpopular, or is there brigading going on?
I suspect a lot of commenters and voters in this thread are from mainland China.
It's astonishing to hear Chinese citizens' opinion of their government, even those who have emigrated elsewhere. The look of shock and disbelief when you relate commonly known events of the last 10 years is sad and underscores the power of propaganda.
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#54The premise of this article is that the US is the victim of Chinese incompetency. The opening sentence more or less tries to state that as a fact. Basically, the authors are parroting Trump here. The reality is that Wuhan has been open for business again for two months or so after China dealt swiftly and efficiently with the pandemic while the US was still in denial about having a crisis while at the same time experi…
The article may be narrative, but you are parroting a similarly false narrative.
The way China dealt with Wuhan was that of the most extreme surveillance state and restricting every fundamental human right there was. The state claimed private property for its own. Arguably the most draconian lockdown seen in the last century anywhere. No democratic country has that sort of power.
We now know, that Chinese authorities did all of the following:
1. Silenced the messenger, ie. the first doctors who came out with news of this virus
2. Lied to the WHO about human to human transmission
3. Deliberately delayed information about the full scope of the epidemic in their nation, for weeks, while international flights were still running.
No one here is arguing that Trump did not completely mismanage this situation. But the main culprit of this crisis was elsewhere. Trump was the idiot at the gates that let in the Trojan horse. China was the one that constructed it.
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#55I’ve not seen such blanket downvoting in a comments section in a while. Is this a genuinely unpopular topic, are the comments unpopular, or is there brigading going on?
I suspect a lot of commenters and voters in this thread are from mainland China. It's astonishing to hear Chinese citizens' opinion of their government, even those who have emigrated elsewhere. The look of shock and disbelief when you relate commonly known events of the last 10 years is sad and underscores the power of propaganda.
Ethno-centrism is a thing, often subconscious. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism
As an American living abroad, I take offense, if in a very minor sense, when people criticize the US. Doubly so since a lot of the foreign critics have no idea wtf they're talking about.
If I'm a Chinese guy in Vancouver I'm not going to be crazy about the CCP... but also not crazy about a bunch of round-eyes spouting off.
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Why the downvotes? If Dinesh Chugtai was Indian, how would the Chinese audience take it? By the name he sounds Indian. It's a business decision but it is what it is! I just started watching the show and love it btw.
If we assume the character was modified to fit the actor who was chosen for the role, then why change him from Pakistani to Indian? Dinesh’s actor, Kumail Nanjiani, even made a popular (and good) movie related to Pakistani culture in contemporary times: The Big Sick. It’s a bit of a stretch to think that the show creators chose Kumail because he was Pakistani rather than Indian. He’s a talented comedian and, at the t…
Why is Monica not shown to be Canadian in the show?
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Why the downvotes? If Dinesh Chugtai was Indian, how would the Chinese audience take it? By the name he sounds Indian. It's a business decision but it is what it is! I just started watching the show and love it btw.
If we assume the character was modified to fit the actor who was chosen for the role, then why change him from Pakistani to Indian? Dinesh’s actor, Kumail Nanjiani, even made a popular (and good) movie related to Pakistani culture in contemporary times: The Big Sick. It’s a bit of a stretch to think that the show creators chose Kumail because he was Pakistani rather than Indian. He’s a talented comedian and, at the t…
Btw the character itself is possibly that of Aditya Agarwal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aditya_Agarwal
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Lol. American movies also tend to romanticize the wars they wage.
Whataboutism, and false equivalence between movie makers distorting their own country's history (of which PRC is even more guilty than the US), and movie makers giving in to a foreign country's threats and whitewashing that country's crimes.
Consider it as a compliment that China thinks your propaganda is too potent for the Chinese population to handle.
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> Otherwise I think there's a lot of confusion in the article between the conflation of the private market changing products to be popular in China, which is fine and simply reflects their status as a consumer I, personally, have a problem with this. It's part of the reason why Hollywood movies have devolved into such pablum--you can't risk pissing of China now that 1/2 of your income is due to the Chinese release. I…
>It's part of the reason why Hollywood movies have devolved into such pablum--you can't risk pissing of China now that 1/2 of your income is due to the Chinese release. You also could never afford to piss America off, which is why every other protagonist in hollywood movies is some Tom Cruise lookalike who combats people who speak English in a broken Russian accent. Just seems normal to me, the only difference is tha…
> You also could never afford to piss America off, which is why every other protagonist in hollywood movies is some Tom Cruise lookalike who combats people who speak English in a broken Russian accent.
Michael Moore's documentaries get shown in theatres as do others.
Such movies about Chinese bad actors wouldn't get even a single showing in China. And would probably get the director placed in jail.
You can slag on America for lots of things. This isn't one of them.
And, by the way, one of James Bond's enemies was effectively Rupert Murdoch (Tomorrow Never Dies). So, even English enemies appear in Hollywood films.
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> Just seems normal to me, the only difference is that the other 95% of the world population now have enough cash to vote with their wallets and American companies learn what it's like to operate in a world where different cultures have different values. This is not Chinese citizens "voting with their wallets", it's the Chinese dictatorship dictating what is allowed to be shown in the country. One unilateral vote. Th…
>, yet we (well, at least you) accept it from China. Why? because it's not my job to tell China how to run their country. This is mostly a distinction without a difference anyway because the Chinese would obviously not enjoy watching a lot of movies in which they're the bad guy and Captain America saves the day. It's like if you make a movie that insults the Prophet Muhammad a lot of Muslims won't like it, and neithe…
>because it's not my job to tell China how to run their country. This is mostly a distinction without a difference anyway because the Chinese would obviously not enjoy watching a lot of movies in which they're the bad guy and Captain America saves the day.
Are you sure they wouldn't enjoy it? You think people like living under oppressive regimes?
And speaking of not telling people how to run their countries; morality is relative? Imprisoning political enemies and subjugation of their families is ok?