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TSMC Announces Intention to Build and Operate Advanced Semiconductor Fab in U.S.

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Re: TSMC Announces Intention to Build and Operate Advanced Semiconductor Fab in U.S.

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At least one component of the "America First" strategy I can fully get behind is bringing manufacturing back to the US mainline. If anything that last few months has taught us, it's that we must not lose our ability to produce quality, vital products. Semiconductors definitely falls into that category. I don't care how it's accomplished, either carrots (tax incentives) or sticks (tariffs). Do what's necessary to brin…

"America First" isn't a strategy, it's a slogan.

Re: TSMC Announces Intention to Build and Operate Advanced Semiconductor Fab in U.S.

#52

Why are fabs being built in az?

Other Fabs are already located in the area, and in general the state has been good towards businesses. Also ASU is nearby so they have a talent pool of new engineers to pull from. Anecdote, since I've moved to AZ myself 5 years ago I've noticed massive growth in tech businesses in Phoenix and the surrounding areas. Cost of living for people here is also cheaper compared to to other cities I've lived in, and many peop…

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Re: TSMC Announces Intention to Build and Operate Advanced Semiconductor Fab in U.S.

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At least one component of the "America First" strategy I can fully get behind is bringing manufacturing back to the US mainline. If anything that last few months has taught us, it's that we must not lose our ability to produce quality, vital products. Semiconductors definitely falls into that category. I don't care how it's accomplished, either carrots (tax incentives) or sticks (tariffs). Do what's necessary to brin…

Consider for a moment that less reliance upon foreign supply chains makes {trade, cold, shooting} war more viable. Right now the world is peaceful and I stand in North America with an iPhone 11 Pro in my pocket and an advanced Nvidia GPU in my workstation. I’m not sure I see a problem with that state of affairs. Reducing interdependence reduces the downside to stupid, selfish nationalistic moves. I don’t want that at…

More foreign dependence makes you more vulnerable in a war, and definitely doesn't prevent war. It makes you an easier target.

Also what you see as peaceful, others see as a stalemate unfortunately. Hopefully it lasts.

Re: TSMC Announces Intention to Build and Operate Advanced Semiconductor Fab in U.S.

#54
It is time.

China invasion may come and in fact hot up so much the guy who responsible for the unlimited war in pla come up to say that is not the right timing. But military invasion is the only choice given Taiwan is going in its political aspiration. (Thanks for the demo of Hong Kong the last election ..) Suicidal is so western thinking. What do you think the North Korea war. What do you think anyone in the Hans mentality afford he has lost Taiwan. Unless the chinese gone multi- ... the oneness cannot he stopped until it controlled. The Middle Kingdom is middle of everything.

If they can get in ... or at least ... or a threat like anti-bio.

It is just in the us interest.

It is time ... it is time ...

Re: TSMC Announces Intention to Build and Operate Advanced Semiconductor Fab in U.S.

#56
As someone else mentioned in the other thread, it's a bit odd that they're aiming for 5nm production at this fab in 2024 because 3nm should be ready to go by then. You'd sorta think that since they're already breaking ground on their 3nm fab in Taiwan that any other new builds would be 3nm as well.

Re: TSMC Announces Intention to Build and Operate Advanced Semiconductor Fab in U.S.

#57
Well that's the quickest I've ever seen reality prove itself stranger than I could have ever imagined:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23186174

I'd be taking bets on how quickly this is going to turn out poorly, but my last tiny ember of faith in any corporate actor being capable of rational thought just got extinguished, so I could be really wrong!

Re: TSMC Announces Intention to Build and Operate Advanced Semiconductor Fab in U.S.

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As someone else mentioned in the other thread, it's a bit odd that they're aiming for 5nm production at this fab in 2024 because 3nm should be ready to go by then. You'd sorta think that since they're already breaking ground on their 3nm fab in Taiwan that any other new builds would be 3nm as well.

This sounds a lot like when Intel built fab 68 in China to run no longer bleeding edge processes.

This seems like a move designed to mess with Intel's experienced employees and to try and combat potential tarrifs

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