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Re: Microsoft Surface Go 2 review

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I bought a Go for my wife for Christmas as I had heard good things about them. To us it seemed like a rubbish tablet combined with an awful laptop with the terrible windows 10 on it. In the end she has just gone back to using her 8 year old laptop with Ubuntu. Does any one have any suggestions for similar devices running Linux?

Was there any reasons Windows couldn't be installed in it?

Re: Microsoft Surface Go 2 review

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post #40

I bought a Go for my wife for Christmas as I had heard good things about them. To us it seemed like a rubbish tablet combined with an awful laptop with the terrible windows 10 on it. In the end she has just gone back to using her 8 year old laptop with Ubuntu. Does any one have any suggestions for similar devices running Linux?

I've installed Pop!_Os on my Surface Go as the primary OS (deleted Windows) and it works really well. A few issues with the touch screen but I just disable that anyway. Using it for coding in C++ and Python and it works well.

Re: Microsoft Surface Go 2 review

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You reckon these kind of tablet/laptops would be able to handle remote desktop smoothly? Since the quarantine started I've been using my laptop to remote desktop to my PC in the office (I need a pretty hefty machine so a laptop doesn't cut it). I've been surprised how well it works and opens a world of possibilities for me. I'd imagine I'm not the only one realizing this.

Yes, I've been using a low-end laptop with Pentium N5000 CPU (Gemini Lake aka "Atom-class") and 4GB RAM. Handles 1920x1200 rdp smoothly plus MS Teams and Firefox running on the laptop.

The Surface Go 2 with its more powerful CPUs and GPUs should work fine.

Re: Microsoft Surface Go 2 review

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I feel like MS laptops are getting bashed left and right by various online experts these days without a decent reason. Apple products are not less cheaper and follow the same "100EUR for a charger" scheme. If you calculate the totals, MS laptop is no more experiensive than the Apple one. Except with MS products you also get a true mobile experience if that is what you are after.

The only drawback is Windows and its tooling. Which you can still circumvent with WLS. I wish Surface lineup was 100% Linux compatible, alas.

Re: Microsoft Surface Go 2 review

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I feel like MS laptops are getting bashed left and right by various online experts these days without a decent reason. Apple products are not less cheaper and follow the same "100EUR for a charger" scheme. If you calculate the totals, MS laptop is no more experiensive than the Apple one. Except with MS products you also get a true mobile experience if that is what you are after. The only drawback is Windows and its t…

This isn't a laptop and suffers from a bit of "neither one thing nor another" syndrome; it can be used as either a kinda awkward tablet, or a _really_ awkward laptop (good luck using one on your lap on a plane or train or something, say). I think a certain amount of scepticism is warranted.

If you _just_ want a laptop, a laptop will be far better than this thing. If you just want a tablet, an iPad will be far better than this thing. If you want both... well, maybe it works, as long as you don't want to use it in laptop-y scenarios and you're okay with Windows' tablet experience? It feels pretty niche.

Re: Microsoft Surface Go 2 review

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Look at that faux-bokeh effect on the product photos. They're so laughably bad that I'm baffled they included them with the article.

Yes, I was wondering why the left side of the Surface looks completely morphed. Like here https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/00100trPOR...

I wondered if there was something in the reflection they didn't want readers to see, coz it looks like someone just dragged a smear brush all over that side of the picture to hide it. Like they were smudging ink on a canvas.

Re: Microsoft Surface Go 2 review

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I feel like MS laptops are getting bashed left and right by various online experts these days without a decent reason. Apple products are not less cheaper and follow the same "100EUR for a charger" scheme. If you calculate the totals, MS laptop is no more experiensive than the Apple one. Except with MS products you also get a true mobile experience if that is what you are after. The only drawback is Windows and its t…

> The only drawback is Windows and its tooling.

I switched last year from using Linux and macOS for 10+ years to a surface laptop. At the beginning Windows was going on my way all the time, but now that I’m more familiar with its system and powershell, it’s way better, and I really enjoy it as a dev environment.

The main pain comes from a lack of familiarity. Once that’s behind, you can be quite productive using Windows.

I now spend almost all my time in powershell and only use WSL for some specific stuff.

Re: Microsoft Surface Go 2 review

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What I really don't get is how companies get away with shipping any model that has 4GB of RAM. I mean,come on, it's 2020. The OS running idle probably needs more than that,not even mentioning opening a few tabs in Chrome.

They're trying to hit a headline price (albeit for a model that no-one should ever buy). This is fairly common, though it's a particularly egregious example; even Apple puts 8GB in their headline-price-don't-buy machines these days.

Re: Microsoft Surface Go 2 review

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Too bad they're sticking with the kickstand design. Makes the device so unusable on the lap (as mentioned in the review). I have the original Go and I can't actually complain about the performance, but it's very hard to use without a flat surface. It's also unusable in your hand, e.g. to show something to someone while standing up.

I have the exact opposite complaint :-) the kickstand is not a problem but performance is so abysmal I can basically keep only one application open at the time. I often wondered what I was doing wrong since many people are reasonably happy with its performance but never found an answer, even after disabling everything that can be disabled.

Do you have the lowest-end model? It had 4GB of RAM and _eMMC storage_. In 2018. That should be expected to be extremely slow.

Even the top-spec model is pretty anemic hardware and is not going to be fast, though. I think you'd have to have pretty low expectations to be happy with the performance.

Re: Microsoft Surface Go 2 review

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post #57

I feel like MS laptops are getting bashed left and right by various online experts these days without a decent reason. Apple products are not less cheaper and follow the same "100EUR for a charger" scheme. If you calculate the totals, MS laptop is no more experiensive than the Apple one. Except with MS products you also get a true mobile experience if that is what you are after. The only drawback is Windows and its t…

> The only drawback is Windows and its tooling. I switched last year from using Linux and macOS for 10+ years to a surface laptop. At the beginning Windows was going on my way all the time, but now that I’m more familiar with its system and powershell, it’s way better, and I really enjoy it as a dev environment. The main pain comes from a lack of familiarity. Once that’s behind, you can be quite productive using Wind…

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