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At least 11 cities use automated surveillance in the EU

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Re: At least 11 cities use automated surveillance in the EU

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In the movies and on TV, they always have to 'ask for the tapes'. Wonder how it really works now - the NSA already has it all?

If those cameras have any kind of outside accessibility over a network, the NSA is probably just one of many with potential access.

The NSA doesn't have access to US security cams and couldn't care less about them. Come on people...

Re: At least 11 cities use automated surveillance in the EU

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Basically every city in the UK (not technically in the EU since Jan) have it, that's 72 right there. Is this meant to be a secret?

The article is about using Machine Learning on the video feeds, not that there are video feeds. And the issue at hand is that ML algorithms can have racial bias in the classifications.

As if it would somehow be ok, if only it weren’t racist.

Re: At least 11 cities use automated surveillance in the EU

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US has more, per-capita? https://www.precisesecurity.com/articles/Top-10-Countries-by... USA has 1 camera for every 6 or 7 people?

I'd like to see a breakdown by cameras by government, companies and homes. I think all those are not equal. Its one thing to have a camera looking at your porch for package thieves but a camera in government hands can be used for a lot more.

Re: At least 11 cities use automated surveillance in the EU

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* Brussels * Kortrijk * Prostějov * Prague * Mannheim * Marbella * Nîmes (FR) * Nice (FR) * Cannes (FR) * Roubaix (FR) * Marseille (FR) * Toulouse (FR) * Yvelines (FR) * Warsaw

Any correlation with the local political color?

Maybe there is but I'd avoid drawing too many conclusions.

I think the desire to monitor like this tends to be more about human nature and less about a given political ideology.

Re: At least 11 cities use automated surveillance in the EU

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The idea that you should lose any form of privacy the moment you step outside your home is an extremely dangerous one. The reasons we value privacy do not suddenly cease to apply because you live a normal life. Also, the evidence that CCTV is effective at deterring or solving crime is debatable. There is a plausible alternative theory that it simply moves the crime around. That is OK for you if you live and work in "…

So if all the parts of town had CCTV then it would be better right?

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Re: At least 11 cities use automated surveillance in the EU

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Curious, do the French people consider Macron a right winger?

France has more than just two political parties. Macron started as a centrist populist with his own party, but has leaned to the right with his actions since coming to office.

I understand that there are more than two political parties. I'm not that blind of an American. Just curious how most Frenchmen view their own leaders on the spectrum.

Re: At least 11 cities use automated surveillance in the EU

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post #4

Basically every city in the UK (not technically in the EU since Jan) have it, that's 72 right there. Is this meant to be a secret?

The article is about using Machine Learning on the video feeds, not that there are video feeds. And the issue at hand is that ML algorithms can have racial bias in the classifications.

D'oh. Sorry, I read this and the story about Sheffield leaking their while ANPR database and got them confused. I'm an idiot!

Do you happen to know, is this the same thing or an earlier (non ML) version?

https://www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/news/facial-recognition-te...

Re: At least 11 cities use automated surveillance in the EU

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You have no expectation of privacy in public or on state owned areas (roads, walkways, squares, parks).

So you're fine with your everyday movements logged and published online? After all, to go anywhere you'll need to step public roads, so you have no expectation of privacy.

If you leave bluetooth on your phone, they already are.

Re: At least 11 cities use automated surveillance in the EU

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post #30

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The idea that you should lose any form of privacy the moment you step outside your home is an extremely dangerous one. The reasons we value privacy do not suddenly cease to apply because you live a normal life. Also, the evidence that CCTV is effective at deterring or solving crime is debatable. There is a plausible alternative theory that it simply moves the crime around. That is OK for you if you live and work in "…

So if all the parts of town had CCTV then it would be better right?

Yes, but it won't happen. It is stupidly expensive and if you leave mild criminals nowhere to go they will destroy the CCTVs (happens a lot with speed cameras, and that's just normal angry drivers).
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