The ProtonMail Android app is now open source • Hacker News Board

Re: The ProtonMail Android app is now open source

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Post by upofadown » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:48 PM UTC

bflesch wrote: post #22

ProtonMail/VPN are great products, but after the Crypto AG fiasco I suspect it is another CIA front. We'll find out in 50 years.

The lesson from Crypto AG is that you have to assume that every communications provider is a CIA front. You should do things in a way where you don't have to trust anyone but yourself and your correspondent. Open source clients are thus an important moral to the Crypto AG story.

Re: The ProtonMail Android app is now open source

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Post by zenlot » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:50 PM UTC

uallo wrote: post #49

pixxel wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I missed this. What’s the deal here?

Apparently an unfounded smear campaign against ProtonMail: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn...

Head over to: https://hn.algolia.com . Plenty of posts regarding Tesonet and Proton*.

Re: The ProtonMail Android app is now open source

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Post by app4soft » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:56 PM UTC

aloisdg wrote: post #2

First issue on the repository: [Asking for F-Droid support][1] [1]: https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-mail-android/issues/1

Still open.

Re: The ProtonMail Android app is now open source

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Post by app4soft » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 7:01 PM UTC

complexworld wrote: post #13

Previous discussions about PM 2018 - Ask HN: How secure is Protonmail really? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18101090 2019 - Ask HN: FastMail vs. ProtonMail? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19372882 How secure would it be to use PM if the following conditions were met? - you only used one of the open-source native PM apps - you only emailed other PM users - someone you trust audited the PM source code for…

- your messages always processed by proprietary/closed source server

So, it just like Telegram (or any other proprietary cloud/VPN/proxy service) - you really don't know what has happen on server side.

Re: The ProtonMail Android app is now open source

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Post by ver_ture » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 7:11 PM UTC

akullpp wrote: post #40

I switched this month from Google services to alternatives and therefore to PMs paid plan. I'm very happy so far with the Android and web app.

What is the android app? Is it an apk from outside the play store?

Re: The ProtonMail Android app is now open source

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Post by detaro » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 7:13 PM UTC

app4soft wrote: post #53

aloisdg wrote: post #2

First issue on the repository: [Asking for F-Droid support][1] [1]: https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-mail-android/issues/1

Still open.

Really, it's worth pointing out that this issue wasn't resolved within 5 hours?

Re: The ProtonMail Android app is now open source

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Post by danielskogly » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 7:13 PM UTC

dyingkneepad wrote: post #27

_eigenfoo wrote: post #5

ProtonMail seems to be on a roll this month. They both released Bridge for Linux [1] and open sourced Bridge [2]. [1] https://protonmail.com/blog/proton-bridge-linux-launch/ [2] https://protonmail.com/blog/bridge-open-source/

Oh, bad timing. Just a few months ago I was on the fence about Protonmail vs Fastmail (vs all others) and ended jumping to Fastmail: the privacy pro didn't seem to outweigh the cons. Now with open sourcing stuff the pros do get somewhat better... But reevaluating and switching would be troublesome.... Maybe in a few years I'll revisit it :)

I've been with ProtonMail a couple of years now, and recently made the step to buy my own domain to use for personal email. What I'm hoping is that whenever I want to switch provider in the future, it won't be any more trouble than to switch some DNS settings :)

Re: The ProtonMail Android app is now open source

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Post by aledthemathguy » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 7:15 PM UTC

ProtonMail will become an extremely important company in the next decade. Their one risk is being bought.

Re: The ProtonMail Android app is now open source

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Post by flicker-rate » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 7:19 PM UTC

_eigenfoo wrote: post #5

ProtonMail seems to be on a roll this month. They both released Bridge for Linux [1] and open sourced Bridge [2]. [1] https://protonmail.com/blog/proton-bridge-linux-launch/ [2] https://protonmail.com/blog/bridge-open-source/

Now all they need to add is hardware 2FA key support. It's on their roadmap and supposedly development is nearly done.

Re: The ProtonMail Android app is now open source

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Post by dyingkneepad » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 7:31 PM UTC

danielskogly wrote: post #57

dyingkneepad wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, bad timing. Just a few months ago I was on the fence about Protonmail vs Fastmail (vs all others) and ended jumping to Fastmail: the privacy pro didn't seem to outweigh the cons. Now with open sourcing stuff the pros do get somewhat better... But reevaluating and switching would be troublesome.... Maybe in a few years I'll revisit it :)

I've been with ProtonMail a couple of years now, and recently made the step to buy my own domain to use for personal email. What I'm hoping is that whenever I want to switch provider in the future, it won't be any more trouble than to switch some DNS settings :)

The easiness to migrating away was one of the cons of Proton Mail to me, but I don't remember the exact reasons for it besides not using standard protocols. Having standard protocols really makes everything easier. With the open sourcing of the tools, maybe it will get better?