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Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by djannzjkzxn » Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 11:46 PM UTC

Someone1234 wrote: post #8

The cheapest iPhone is also as expensive as some mid-range Android devices and completely inaccessible to a large chunk of the world's population. When a device that most will spend $449 on is "cheap" you have to admire Apple's price anchoring[0], they release a $1249 flagship and suddenly what the largest iPhone 5S flagshp cost ($442.09 inflation adjusted to 2020) at launch is considered "cheap." It is undeniably a…

Lots of people are spending many hours a week on their phones. And that time is noticeably more enjoyable with a better-functioning phone. I think it’s rational to compare the cost of phone to the cost of something like a car, appliance, or couch and consider how much value you get out of it for how many years when deciding whether the price tag is worth it. Personally, I’d pay at least a dollar an hour to always use a nicer phone, and that pays for a higher end phone every few years.

Consider the case of someone who is upgrading from the iPhone SE they bought four years ago. $100/year seems like a pretty good deal for their next phone.

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by captn3m0 » Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 11:50 PM UTC

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #16

baq wrote: post #11

i don't care. what i care about is that the cheapest iPhone has a longer support period than the most expensive Android. it's actually insane and infuriating because I don't even like Apple but there literally is no other choice if you don't want to switch your phone every two years.

It really depends on what support you need - yes, the latest and greatest bling is dropped soon, but Samsung offers 4 years of security updates - that's quite a bit of time. You'll probably have a really bad battery by that point and it's probably worth an upgrade. You won't have all the latest and greatest OS bling, but you wouldn't have the latest and greatest anything but that point, and that's probably OK.

Does this apply to all Samsung phones or just flagships?

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by atomi » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 12:04 AM UTC

djannzjkzxn wrote: post #51

Someone1234 wrote: post #8

The cheapest iPhone is also as expensive as some mid-range Android devices and completely inaccessible to a large chunk of the world's population. When a device that most will spend $449 on is "cheap" you have to admire Apple's price anchoring[0], they release a $1249 flagship and suddenly what the largest iPhone 5S flagshp cost ($442.09 inflation adjusted to 2020) at launch is considered "cheap." It is undeniably a…

Lots of people are spending many hours a week on their phones. And that time is noticeably more enjoyable with a better-functioning phone. I think it’s rational to compare the cost of phone to the cost of something like a car, appliance, or couch and consider how much value you get out of it for how many years when deciding whether the price tag is worth it. Personally, I’d pay at least a dollar an hour to always use…

I still use my Nexus 7 with LineageOS - daily. It's cost? A hundred sixteen dollars - in 2013. I use it for web browsing, reading and video mostly at 1920x1200 for 7 inches with a battery that still lasts a couple of days of heavy usage - I find it extremely difficult to justify spending over a thousand dollars for something that offers a whole lot of stuff that I don't need. One caveat, if you're largely using your phone for pictures then I can imagine it would be worth the cost for newer tech. I just don't need it.

Maybe Apple's better pricing will give Google the kick in the ass they need to bring back an inexpensive phablet like the Nexus 7.

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by mceachen » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 12:25 AM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #24

baq wrote: post #11

i don't care. what i care about is that the cheapest iPhone has a longer support period than the most expensive Android. it's actually insane and infuriating because I don't even like Apple but there literally is no other choice if you don't want to switch your phone every two years.

False. Check Nokia Android phones.

You mean Android One?

Those only have 3 years of "guaranteed" monthly security updates since first release of phone.

In practice, though, Nokia's delivery is delayed and much less frequent than monthly (I've got a Nokia 7.1).

OnePlus delivers security updates 3-9 months after the pixel, at least on the 7 pro (their flagship from last year).

These promises are simply not being kept.

FWIW, the original iPhone SE is still getting updates, and was released 4 years ago.

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by beamatronic » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 12:35 AM UTC

Someone1234 wrote: post #8

The cheapest iPhone is also as expensive as some mid-range Android devices and completely inaccessible to a large chunk of the world's population. When a device that most will spend $449 on is "cheap" you have to admire Apple's price anchoring[0], they release a $1249 flagship and suddenly what the largest iPhone 5S flagshp cost ($442.09 inflation adjusted to 2020) at launch is considered "cheap." It is undeniably a…

If you are using all the capabilities of your smartphone, it should be adding way more value to your life, than it costs. That's what makes smartphones indispensible - a huge ROI.

Edit: Wanted to share a tip. If you are planning to buy an iPhone anyway, be sure to get Apple Card. You'll get a 3% discount on your purchase, and they will let you pay 24 equal monthly payments with no interest.

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by uyuioi » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 12:36 AM UTC

mrpippy wrote: post #44

uyuioi wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The iPhone XR models should have been the new SE and the iPhone 8 body should have gone. Apple is a joke when it comes to these things.

The entire point of this phone is that it's the iPhone 8 body. Smaller than the XR, still uses Touch ID and home button.

Apple could have easily replaced the screen on the 8 body with one of the XR with Face ID. It’s an admission that Face ID is another failure, along side the dreadful touchbar. None of the macs have Face ID and now a brand new phone without Face ID. Apple has iOS one day someone will replace it and Apple will be buggered.

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by shannongreen » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 1:06 AM UTC

LeoTinnitus wrote: post #25

Someone1234 wrote: post #8

The cheapest iPhone is also as expensive as some mid-range Android devices and completely inaccessible to a large chunk of the world's population. When a device that most will spend $449 on is "cheap" you have to admire Apple's price anchoring[0], they release a $1249 flagship and suddenly what the largest iPhone 5S flagshp cost ($442.09 inflation adjusted to 2020) at launch is considered "cheap." It is undeniably a…

I still can't get over the fact that apple is still putting in less than 2000hz batteries. Sure the life is great the first year, but as they make updates and increase the processor usage, suddenly that battery can barely last a day. I know people hate phablets, but if that gets me a 2 day battery life, so be it.

> hz

hopefully mAh

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by dzhiurgis » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 1:25 AM UTC

A lot of people who don't know much what iPhone gets you won't care about CPU.

I wanna upgrade my in-laws from cheap, spyware ridden Androids that can't even withstand a video chat. It will be quite hard with the screen that looks like it's half a decade old.

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by dzhiurgis » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 1:29 AM UTC

djannzjkzxn wrote: post #51

Someone1234 wrote: post #8

The cheapest iPhone is also as expensive as some mid-range Android devices and completely inaccessible to a large chunk of the world's population. When a device that most will spend $449 on is "cheap" you have to admire Apple's price anchoring[0], they release a $1249 flagship and suddenly what the largest iPhone 5S flagshp cost ($442.09 inflation adjusted to 2020) at launch is considered "cheap." It is undeniably a…

Lots of people are spending many hours a week on their phones. And that time is noticeably more enjoyable with a better-functioning phone. I think it’s rational to compare the cost of phone to the cost of something like a car, appliance, or couch and consider how much value you get out of it for how many years when deciding whether the price tag is worth it. Personally, I’d pay at least a dollar an hour to always use…

> I’d pay at least a dollar an hour to always use a nicer phone

That's 75% of a minimum wage in Montana.

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by dzhiurgis » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 1:31 AM UTC

shantara wrote: post #36

Someone1234 wrote: post #8

The cheapest iPhone is also as expensive as some mid-range Android devices and completely inaccessible to a large chunk of the world's population. When a device that most will spend $449 on is "cheap" you have to admire Apple's price anchoring[0], they release a $1249 flagship and suddenly what the largest iPhone 5S flagshp cost ($442.09 inflation adjusted to 2020) at launch is considered "cheap." It is undeniably a…

As a side note, Pixel 3a got discounted down to $300 a few months after the release, which I think is a fair price for a phone of its specs and software support period. It was definitely too expensive for me for its asked release price. I'm generally a fan of Apple hardware, but the 3a was the best phone I've owned in a long time. It doesn't have anti-features like slippery glass back or notch and has a headphone jac…

Glass back is less slippery if it's polished. New ones (or aluminium ones) are most slippery.