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Re: New Yorkers consider relocating post coronavirus

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I'm considering relocating from Seattle purely based on the fact that we can make WFH commonplace. Why pay insane rents to physically be in a location I can work remotely?

Because Seattle's a pretty great city to live in? You can still easily find rent below $1500/month for a 1 bedroom on Capitol Hill, it isn't too insane. Editing to add Seattle has world-class rock climbing, mountaineering, and hiking under an hour's drive from downtown, and if you aren't doing that you're probably missing out on half the joy of living here.

> world-class rock climbing, mountaineering, and hiking under an hour's drive from downtown,

Seems like you could have all of that without living in downtown...

Re: New Yorkers consider relocating post coronavirus

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I'm considering relocating from Seattle purely based on the fact that we can make WFH commonplace. Why pay insane rents to physically be in a location I can work remotely?

You can move to the country like me, but you'll give up: * steady cellular signal * internet competition * cuisine diversity of restaurants * tech meetups

But you gain: * cheap land * neighbors with skills beyond typing * cheaper labor pool for assistance you might need (electrician, plumber, private pilot training, etc, etc)

Re: New Yorkers consider relocating post coronavirus

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> "Because Seattle's a pretty great city to live in?" I feel like thats a minority opinion. The weather is terrible, the food is terrible, service at restaurants (or pretty much service in general) is terrible. A huge portion of the city shuts down at night. Where NYC is a city that doesn't sleep, Seattle sleeps. There are drug needles in the streets, and I routinely see homeless people defecating on sidewalks. I eve…

I'm a native New Yorker with all the chauvinism that comes with it, but I didn't find Seattle that bad! The weather is no worse than New York's brutal humidity in the summer. The food isn't that bad. Sure the Asian food is thoroughly mediocre compared to New York's, but that's mostly cause New York has great Asian food. The seafood is wonderful too. Service wasn't that bad either—I suspect that's very subjective. Sur…

"New York's brutal humidity in the summer. "

Dude, either I have been away too long from NYC or you have not lived in hot humid places.

Re: New Yorkers consider relocating post coronavirus

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Seattle's a pretty great city to live in? You can still easily find rent below $1500/month for a 1 bedroom on Capitol Hill, it isn't too insane. Editing to add Seattle has world-class rock climbing, mountaineering, and hiking under an hour's drive from downtown, and if you aren't doing that you're probably missing out on half the joy of living here.

> "Because Seattle's a pretty great city to live in?" I feel like thats a minority opinion. The weather is terrible, the food is terrible, service at restaurants (or pretty much service in general) is terrible. A huge portion of the city shuts down at night. Where NYC is a city that doesn't sleep, Seattle sleeps. There are drug needles in the streets, and I routinely see homeless people defecating on sidewalks. I eve…

* World-class rock climbing, mountaineering, and hiking less than an hour's drive from downtown

* I moved here from Canada, the weather really isn't that bad; it's been a beautiful spring here while all my Canadian friends are still dealing with snow

* Seattle has a huge number of sakura and so the city has beautiful pink cherry blossom clouds everywhere for the entire month of April

* The entire environment is so incredibly lush & green; it's called the Emerald City for a reason!

* The food is quite good, actually

It's funny that the thing you think Seattle has going for it - low taxes - directly contributes to the issue of homelessness and half of your complaints.

Re: New Yorkers consider relocating post coronavirus

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Seattle's a pretty great city to live in? You can still easily find rent below $1500/month for a 1 bedroom on Capitol Hill, it isn't too insane. Editing to add Seattle has world-class rock climbing, mountaineering, and hiking under an hour's drive from downtown, and if you aren't doing that you're probably missing out on half the joy of living here.

> world-class rock climbing, mountaineering, and hiking under an hour's drive from downtown, Seems like you could have all of that without living in downtown...

Yeah, but then you lack all the benefits of the city. Downtown isn't a nice place to live, also.

Re: New Yorkers consider relocating post coronavirus

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I saw a statistic that 0.25% of NYC’s population has already died from Coronavirus (15k/6m). It seems worse there due to the density, and similarly dense cities like London are in the same boat.

On the other hand, California has a much lower death rate despite having cities with a population density in the same magnitude as NYC, which seems to suggest some level of luck of the draw here in initial unrecorded spread before lockdowns came into place.

> California has a much lower death rate despite having cities with a population density in the same magnitude as NYC

New York is denser than any city in California.

"New York is far more crowded than any other major city in the United States. It has 28,000 residents per square mile, while San Francisco, the next most jammed city, has 17,000, according to data from the U.S. Census Bur"

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-...

Re: New Yorkers consider relocating post coronavirus

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I think the aftermath of coronavirus is really going to be larger that most people are anticipating when it comes to work and migration patterns: 1. In the past 25 years there has been a huge re-migration back to cores of major cities. I think that is going to stop. 2. Suburbs and exurbs I think will become way more popular. The normal limiting factor on those locations is the commute, but I think so many more compan…

Disagreement on #2 and #3: #2: Suburbs/exurbs are completely unsustainable. I'd predict that after this is over, local food sources will figure prominently on people's minds. We might see a return to smaller satellite cities if zoning changes to a saner mixed zoning approach. (You don't want big box stores. You do want smaller stores embedded in the local community. I'm not sure there's the political will to go there…

Saying that suburbs and exurbs are "completely unsustainable" is a massive exaggeration.

Re: New Yorkers consider relocating post coronavirus

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citation please?

As of today, 10,344 confirmed deaths [0] from COVID-19, of a population of 8.4m [1] is 0.12% [2]. This is less than the original parent states, but only by 2x. [0] https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=coronav... [1] https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=nyc+pop... [2] Elementary math?

NYS has 18,776 deaths as of today’s count.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

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