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Re: Shirt Without Stripes

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Post by throw345hn »

Only slightly related but a couple of years back I got an alexa as a gift. When you open the alexa app, they had the option to add list of todos as a reminder. The first thing I did is to say something like - Alexa, add a reminder to get milk and eggs and paper. The app literally added a single item like this - milkANDeggsANDpaper.

After that I facepalmed myself and turned it off.

Re: Shirt Without Stripes

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Post by lucb1e »

jlmcguire wrote: post #4

without must be a tough one? It does seem that bing is the worst at figuring this out from the pictures.

None of them make an attempt at filtering this. While I found it amusing because they advertise with AI magic in other areas, those search engines all advertise to be keyword searches and one of them being "the worst" means it's either random (since none of them are trying) or they are the best (since it matches the stripes keyword).

To be honest I wish they actually were keyword searches and that the machine doesn't try to be smarter than you. Many times when I carefully specify which keywords must appear on the page, it'll ignore parts of the query or add unrelated synonyms. Usually one can work around it with operators but it's tedious and doesn't work reliably.

Re: Shirt Without Stripes

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Post by seph-reed »

alexpapworth wrote: post #45
Justin_K wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd go as far as saying "AI" is only as good as someone has taken the time to program the use case.

So, it's really just a series of if statements?

Either that or vague network of trial and error generalizations (deep learning/gut learning).

Re: Shirt Without Stripes

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Post by scabarott »

Justin_K wrote: post #20
meritt wrote: post #13

The point of this isn't asking how to apply boolean search operators, it's showing that the largest AI-focused companies in the world absolutely suck at NLP.

I'd go as far as saying "AI" is only as good as someone has taken the time to program the use case.

Huh? It's supposed to be the opposite, hence the "I"

Re: Shirt Without Stripes

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Post by saagarjha »

sparrish wrote: post #12

Learn you some Google-foo. Don't say what it isn't. Say what it is. "shirt solid color"

> Learn you some Google-foo.

That is, learn to structure your query in a way that Google understands what you're trying to say. This used to be what yuo had to do, but now that Google tries to understand the intent of what you're trying to say and advertises as such, it's clearly a hack.

Re: Shirt Without Stripes

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Post by devy »

oconnor663 wrote: post #32
rgovostes wrote: post #23

The point that the author is making, in a very understated way, is that all three companies have PR websites that breathlessly describe their advanced AI capabilities, yet they cannot understand a very simple query that young children can.

Searching for "now one with stripes this time please" yielded similarly disappointing results :) Edit: "stripes" not "stripped" ugh

Google's result is noticeably better though. :)

Re: Shirt Without Stripes

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Post by saagarjha »

diegorbaquero wrote: post #18

This is expected, not wanted though, I would expect some semantic analysis translated into "shirt -stripes", but what you really mean is "solid color shirt". This is a tough one but surely something that can be tackled with research

shirt -stripes does not mean "solid color shirt", as the - operator looks for that text on the page, instead of performing a semantic "I don't want stripes".
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