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The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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DonHopkins wrote: post #35

Here's the extended paper version of the talk, with all those great mind map diagrams (which were made with Loomio, [I think, but not sure]): https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/vulk-blog/ThePervertsGuid... Loomio: https://www.loomio.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loomio >Loomio is decision-making software designed to assist groups with the collaborative decision-making process. It is a free software[3] web applic…

I don't see anything about the mind maps. Can you give a pointer to loomio.org or gitub which specifically speaks to that?

Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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twic wrote: post #18
graycat wrote: post #17

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> there were no emotional, psychological, psychiatric, subconscious, etc. considerations at all > I heard good things about big shops successfully using Windows Server for Web sites and running database. I need database, and Microsoft's SQL Server seems well respected, understood, popular, documented, stable, etc. This clearly suggests a yearning for a father figure. What was your parents' relationship like when you…

I think there's an underlying cognitive dissonance between parent/child node relationships in digital tree data structures, and parent/child human relationships in biological family tree structures.

People and animals typically have two parents, while nodes typically only have one parent!

Would a more humanistic collection API support both "mother" and "father" relations, instead of just a single "parent"? Or should they be even more inclusive, and support any combination or number of "mother" and "father" relations, and even user defined parental relations?

I'm joking, but maybe it would be a good addition to Brainfuck.

Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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dleslie wrote: post #42
vesche wrote: post #12

From the video... Psychopath Languages: Javascript, PHP, VBA, and SQL Masochist Languages: C, Assembly, Ada, Brainfuck, and Factor Sadist Languages: Perl, Clojure, Erlang, and Regex Fetishistic Languages: Erlang, Smalltalk, Elixir, and Factor Obsessional Languages: Java, C++, Haskell, Scala, Go Hysterical Languages: Python, Ruby, C#, Prolog, Elixir, and Matlib Depression Languages: COBOL Melancholy Languages: Lisp, S…

Having watched the video, read this post, and written serious amounts of non-trivial code in Javascript, PHP, SQL, C, Assembly, Perl, Regex, Java, C++, Python, C#, Ruby, and Scheme... I don't disagree. The "melancholy" hit especially hard.

> The "melancholy" hit especially hard.

Romanticism of Lisp: how awesome it could have been if I were writing this on a modern Lisp machine.

Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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mettamage wrote: post #8

Psychoanalysis: psychologists that don't do experiments, according to my university. Because of this they were briefly covered during one lecture and then completely tossed aside. Psychology != experimental psychology Yes, experimental psychologists have a field that almost completely crumbled, but at least they (1) admitted it and (2) some of them try to conduct science and succeed at it (most don't succeed unfortun…

Timothy Leary was a pioneer in group psychotherapy, FWTW.

Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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vesche wrote: post #12

From the video... Psychopath Languages: Javascript, PHP, VBA, and SQL Masochist Languages: C, Assembly, Ada, Brainfuck, and Factor Sadist Languages: Perl, Clojure, Erlang, and Regex Fetishistic Languages: Erlang, Smalltalk, Elixir, and Factor Obsessional Languages: Java, C++, Haskell, Scala, Go Hysterical Languages: Python, Ruby, C#, Prolog, Elixir, and Matlib Depression Languages: COBOL Melancholy Languages: Lisp, S…

Miss APL, (or K etc.), Pascal and Fortran and Algol 68 ...

Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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Post by DonHopkins »

m3047 wrote: post #51
DonHopkins wrote: post #35

Here's the extended paper version of the talk, with all those great mind map diagrams (which were made with Loomio, [I think, but not sure]): https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/vulk-blog/ThePervertsGuid... Loomio: https://www.loomio.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loomio >Loomio is decision-making software designed to assist groups with the collaborative decision-making process. It is a free software[3] web applic…

I don't see anything about the mind maps. Can you give a pointer to loomio.org or gitub which specifically speaks to that?

Maybe I misunderstood that the tool he was using was Loomio in this video (that's what it says in the title bar, but maybe that's just the name of the file) -- it could be he's using some other mind mapping tool, but I don't recognize it, and I'd love to know what it is:

Here is a talk by W Watson (the same guy who gave this talk) about Loomio, and its background, history, and purpose, as it relates to asynchronous group decision making!

Austin Software Co-operatives - Video Recap: Economic Update - Enabling Worker Coops

>In May, we will discuss a 60 minute long video from Economic Update on Enabling Worker Coops - https://www.democracyatwork.info/eu_enabling_worker_coops Please watch the video prior to the 7pm call to have some background. We are looking forward to discussing this topic with the group!

>Software co-operatives and meritocracies are more complex than you might think.

>These concepts sit on the intersection of self-organizing groups, capitalism, consultancies, meritocracies, law, and ethics. Help us discover the best way to structure a software co-operative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m397EHORPI

https://www.democracyatwork.info/eu_enabling_worker_coops

There have been some HN postings about Loomio:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12348909

Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

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Post by m3047 »

jandrese wrote: post #30

So according to this video these psychoanalysts completely redefined a good number of emotionally charged terms when developing their theories? Or did people hear the words and redefine them later? The wanton disregard for existing structures really bugs me, perhaps more than it should. It's seemingly intentionally misleading, like they're afraid other people will find their conclusions too simplistic so they intenti…

The tests comment was meant in good fun. I made it up the corporate ladder as far as Director, but decided I liked programming better. But if I put on my management hat, the question would run somewhat as follows:

I see you're expressing a fair amount of indignation, and I acknowledge that. But are we supposed to gaze upon your indignation, or the indignity you claim to have suffered?

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