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Employers who use software to take screenshots of workers’ computers

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Re: Employers who use software to take screenshots of workers’ computers

#51

I would quit the moment I found out something like this was being instituted. I think most companies that need to hire top talent know that these kinds of things drive away talent. So these practices tend to be relegated to a lower tier of companies/employers.

no you wouldn’t

Re: Employers who use software to take screenshots of workers’ computers

#52
post #10

A lot of people are saying "not news worthy," but I think this is a far more useful article than the majority of articles posted here: - It's applicable to most people on this site - It's actionable: be conscious of what you use your company-issued computer for I'm convinced that most people aren't aware that this is a common practice. I've talked to people who think it's not possible or that their company doesn't do…

What I wonder is the best way to determine whether this is going on and if so what it is doing exactly (or in broad terms)

Re: Employers who use software to take screenshots of workers’ computers

#53
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many also use it on computers owned by contractors, requiring its use to bill time.

In that case can't you just install it on a tiny vm on a server?

Some places are super locked down when it comes to what software you can install. For example it took me a month to have pandoc, vim and a few other tools (GNU Tree) and a few other pieces of software installed by IT because it had to be approved by 2 layers of management, approved by IT Security and then it was installed on my PC.

If you are working remotely they will give you a machine that VPNs into another machine.

Re: Employers who use software to take screenshots of workers’ computers

#55

As a company owner, I've resisted the temptation to do this. We did make it easy for our employees to behave themselves by making it very easy to 'clock in' and 'clock out.' I told everybody that this is a time to be close to family - if your child wants to play ball in the middle of the day, then go ahead! Just clock out before you do. Get your 8 hours in and document your work. Thankfully everybody has responded we…

Just one minor thing, if your employees are salaried, it's worth finding out what the actual rules are for clocking time. If hourly, then you've already got it figured out.

Re: Employers who use software to take screenshots of workers’ computers

#56
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or just play a full screen slide show of various spreadsheets and documents. Will they really study the screenshots that closely to see the repetition?

Sure, spot-check and scrutize a small fraction. (Not to say I endorse this means of tracking employees' time, I just don't think that's a big impediment to this method.)

In my experience employers only tend to look back at things like this once they have a “reason” and are trying to document/justify performance issues. Although I agree it doesn’t seem too far off to have a system that proactively analyzes the screenshots and alerts a manager when Facebook or gmail seems to be open a disproportionate amount of time.

Re: Employers who use software to take screenshots of workers’ computers

#57

As a company owner, I've resisted the temptation to do this. We did make it easy for our employees to behave themselves by making it very easy to 'clock in' and 'clock out.' I told everybody that this is a time to be close to family - if your child wants to play ball in the middle of the day, then go ahead! Just clock out before you do. Get your 8 hours in and document your work. Thankfully everybody has responded we…

Why is it tied to time, instead of deliverables? I mean, if I work extra hard to get the days work done in 4 hours, why can’t I leave early compared to a co-worker who is working less focused and more slowly? I get that it’s not easy to set good milestones, and to keep it fair in terms of making sure everyone has approximately equal work, but I feel the same problems exist with required work “time” especially since i…

Whether this benefits the employee or employer more is very case-specific. Without any rules, even productive people are tempted to work longer hours. They may feel guilty about not being more productive, since this has more to do with emotional state than a realistic idea of how your work compares with others.

Setting limits on how long people work could have a better impact in terms of work-life balance than being able to quit early once in a while.

Re: Employers who use software to take screenshots of workers’ computers

#58
post #24

I'm working on a product that logs everything you do on your computer super accurately, but when it comes down to submitting those activities the user can (actually often really needs to) clean them up first. The raw logged data doesn't leave the computer, the boss or client gets a version that might or might not be an accurate reflection of what the worker did. The most important thing is that you're able to "rememb…

“ There is no way I want the end user to feel spied on by the tool, that would totally kill the acceptation in the market.”

Are you selling to the actual user? Usually stuff like this gets bought by the employer.

Re: Employers who use software to take screenshots of workers’ computers

#59

The trouble with taking screenshots is then you have to employ people to spend their day examining and evaluating the screenshots. Before computers could transcribe voice, the limiting factor of wiretapping is needing some poor schmuck who had to listen to all those utterly banal conversations, which has to be one of the worst jobs ever.

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Re: Employers who use software to take screenshots of workers’ computers

#60

Is there a way to figure out if your machine does this? Is there a list of process names to look for or similar?

In MacOS, the software probably requires screen recording permission in System Preferences.
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