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Yawn. Good lane markings, no rain/snow or other bad weather, perfect road surfaces. Just like all other self-driving demos. I'd like to see a demo like this on snow covered roads, with no lane markings visible. I think that would tell a lot more about the system's ability to deal with an imperfect world.
Watching this, it's so frustrating that we're 95-99% there on autonomous driving.
More to the point, this falls into the category of safety-critical systems, with the added wrinkle of potentially being used daily by millions of people. Unlike many domains where software is applied, 80% of the way there doesn't cut it, nor does 95% or 99% or even 99.9%.
(Leaving aside the fact that, for all of us not actively engaged in autonomous vehicle R&D, we likely have absolutely no idea how close we are to success here, or even what all the relevant goalposts would be.)
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Presenting a subset of the information to let the uninformed jump to favorable conclusions for the presenter is not a new marketing strategy. If there's no indication about the true level of progress, what is the purpose of the demo?
> to let the uninformed The uniformed don't know what 'scalable L4 deployment' is, so they can't jump to that conclusion.
Is there a way to know that this isn’t done with remote control, other than the company says so?
If you think people are just going to simply lie to you then how do you ever get anything out of reading things on the internet?
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> to let the uninformed The uniformed don't know what 'scalable L4 deployment' is, so they can't jump to that conclusion.
No, but they're familiar with the definition (start-to-finish entirely autonomous trip under somewhat-controlled driving conditions) even if they don't necessarily know the lingo to describe it. Being able to get from point A to point B without human intervention is what people expect when they hear "self-driving car", and the video does little (if anything) to temper that expectation (perhaps because it truly is rea…
I don't even know what this means, so I doubt the uninformed know the definition.
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> I'd like to see a demo like this on snow covered roads, with no lane markings visible. But humans can't drive well in those situations either. Why are you asking for something better than humans can do?
I was once driving on a road I could not see at all. It was at night, in a blizzard on the road from Denver to Vail. It didn't take long until I was following the two red lights of the bus in front of me. As a human, I knew I could drive safely where the bus had been driving seconds ago. A self-driving car would have... tell me.
Besides the sheer complexity of situations described in this video, I wonder how these vehicles will deal with differences in traffic rules in different countries (when even road signs can be different).
Presumably Zoox deployments in other cities would work similarly, "cheating" by baking in local driving rules and road maps. A consumer-owned self-driving car would likely be able to do something similar by downloading the local ruleset and maps on the fly, assuming one exists.
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Thanks for the info. Can you clarify what predictions in multi agent scenarios are?
Imagine an uncontrolled intersection. The Robotaxi is approaching from one direction. In the opposite direction is a cyclist who intends to turn left across the Robotaxi. There is also a pedestrian that may or may not cross the street, and another vehicle about to cross in front of the Robotaxi from the other direction. There are a huge number of ways this scenario can play out, and any decision made by one agent can…
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No, but they're familiar with the definition (start-to-finish entirely autonomous trip under somewhat-controlled driving conditions) even if they don't necessarily know the lingo to describe it. Being able to get from point A to point B without human intervention is what people expect when they hear "self-driving car", and the video does little (if anything) to temper that expectation (perhaps because it truly is rea…
> under somewhat-controlled driving conditions I don't even know what this means, so I doubt the uninformed know the definition.