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This fancy looking site is pretty unhelpful, and also has sinister tracking analytics which does not help their 'privacy cause'.
My assessment is that I would highly not recommend this site.
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I've seen many submission reach front page that had roughly 1 vote/min in the first 2 hours.
I'm talking about the "creepiness rating". It seems like it might be based on what other people have voted.
I wanted to give everyone a heads up here, this is genuinely a terrible site. I like the things mozilla does more generally. But this site... These product listings are USER RATED! And they're sorted based on users ratings. General users will vote for anything positive to indicate they like it , and anything negative to indicate they hate it. "Is this product good value?" "Yes." "Is this a luxury product?" "Yes." "Is…
Sure they _say_ they're for it but their actions and products have been leaning the opposite way lately.
The UI is quite bizarre. The "not creepy" face changes based on scroll position , not what you point at. It's unclear which products it's even referring to. I don't understand why they didn't display an ordinary table with checkboxes for each security feature.
Not only that, but several of the "Very Creepy" items have a star with a laurel wreath around it, like it's won some sort of award for being not creepy on the site. WTF?
https://assets.mofoprod.net/static/_images/buyers-guide/badg...
Automatic updates would seem to be a negative for privacy. They imply a backdoor to force changes on a device. Automatic update features have often been used to reduce consumer rights.
It's not even clear they're a win for security. If you shipped some simple device with so much attack surface it needs security fixes, you're doing it wrong.
> Does it have a privacy policy?
I don't really care about a product's privacy policy; I care about what's in the policy!
> Do you have to create a strong password?
It makes little sense to avoid a product because they let you set a four character password. Just use a longer password! (If they have a maximum length or some such, that's of course a different story.)
> Does it get regular software/firmware updates?
Updates can be a good sign, I guess, but as with the privacy policy, doesn't it matter more what's in those updates? Zoom gets regular updates, but that doesn't make more confident in the software—at all.
I opted out of the Firefox/Android data collection setting. Then I was recently updated to the new Firefox Beta: https://snipboard.io/139WEH.jpg Privacy not included.
Looks like you were one of the unlucky 10%: https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/mobile/android/mma.h... It seems they've been using Leanplum for some time; I'm surprised I hadn't heard anything about it. It looks like they're not using it for advertising purposes, at least. I'm surprised they wouldn't at least restrict it to only users who had enabled usage data (i.e., not enable it for users who had clearly alre…
I wanted to give everyone a heads up here, this is genuinely a terrible site. I like the things mozilla does more generally. But this site... These product listings are USER RATED! And they're sorted based on users ratings. General users will vote for anything positive to indicate they like it , and anything negative to indicate they hate it. "Is this product good value?" "Yes." "Is this a luxury product?" "Yes." "Is…
Right. Automatic updates would seem to be a negative for privacy. They imply a backdoor to force changes on a device. Automatic update features have often been used to reduce consumer rights. It's not even clear they're a win for security. If you shipped some simple device with so much attack surface it needs security fixes, you're doing it wrong.
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You didn't look very closely at the website and just jumped to conclusions, didn't you? They rank all the ones you mentioned as "Super creepy".
The "creepy" factor is a user-rating, Mozilla IS saying these are endorsed (hence the "wreath").
This webcam[0] with a doggy treat dispenser attached to it gets the wreath, but when you scroll further down they tell you what's bad with it. On 2nd reading the wreath means "It meets our minimum security standard!". Woah, that's like giving a crown to someone finishing a 5K run 4 hours behind the leader, because "Reaching the finish means you're special!".
And it's enough for the manufacturer to promise shit in writing ("Yeah we have a privacy policy, and we have a button that says 'Delete my data'.") to "meet their minimum security standards".
It smells to me like the foundation is using their reputation for a money/favors grab ("That's a nice product you got, it would be bad if it didn't get our wreath.") -- maybe that's not their motivation, but that's what I'm smelling. The whole thing stinks it makes me wonder if I should uninstall Firefox...
[0] https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/product...
