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ArduBee – A micro drone for open source development

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Re: ArduBee – A micro drone for open source development

#51

Looks cool, it's great to have another good open source ready-to-fly option. I have some concerns about larger PCB quadcopter designs because I can imagine that fatigue due to flexing on the PCB over long-term use could cause issues with the PCB delaminating or solder joints failing. On the ArduBee particularly, you can see a lot of surface-mount components mounted on the arms. I'd love to read more about any lifetim…

The next step up for rigidity is usually low-cost carbon fiber.

Re: ArduBee – A micro drone for open source development

#52

Looks cool, it's great to have another good open source ready-to-fly option. I have some concerns about larger PCB quadcopter designs because I can imagine that fatigue due to flexing on the PCB over long-term use could cause issues with the PCB delaminating or solder joints failing. On the ArduBee particularly, you can see a lot of surface-mount components mounted on the arms. I'd love to read more about any lifetim…

The next step up for rigidity is usually low-cost carbon fiber.

True, carbon fiber composites nearly always have greater stiffness and ultimate strength vs fiberglass

However, carbon fiber is also electrically conductive, vs fiberglass which is insulating, so that might be just a bit of a problem for a circuit board base... (perhaps solvable, but not the usual near-drop-in upgrade)

Re: ArduBee – A micro drone for open source development

#54
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Another? There is one already? Can you please provide info about it?

https://www.bitcraze.io/products/crazyflie-2-1/

I agree bitcraze its a great nano drone, but the first version has 3 minutes flight time and it can not be used outdoor, furthermore, Ardupilot is far more advanced and offers a lot more potential and with a huge community of experts, developers and user

Re: ArduBee – A micro drone for open source development

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https://www.bitcraze.io/products/crazyflie-2-1/

I agree bitcraze its a great nano drone, but the first version has 3 minutes flight time and it can not be used outdoor, furthermore, Ardupilot is far more advanced and offers a lot more potential and with a huge community of experts, developers and user

UWB is really impressive and I see you have a optical flow positioning add-on board as well. Would like to play around with the current state-of-the-art, curious is fetting things to position indoors got easyer in the last 4 years, since last time I played with it.

Something I was thinking recently is using a lighthouse positioning system from Valve for indoor positioning. They have permissive licensing terms and the tech looks very promising:

https://partner.steamgames.com/vrlicensing

Re: ArduBee – A micro drone for open source development

#56

Cool, but what does it do that the HoverflyOpen doesn't already?

Hi! Makers from ArduBee here. Thanks a lot for this comment! As we have never heared of HoverflyOpen and we couldn't find much more than on this site, we can not really comment on it. But if you have more information, we would love to hear about it! Just based on the facts we can get from that site, it seems a quite priced Flight controller, where you do not know in which flight stack you could use it. Also you can not see how large the community of developers is around it. Arudupilot, which is our foundation for ArduBee, is Open Source and with a large user base and active, high talented developers working constantly on maintenance and improvements. ArduBee not only is a Flight controller (based on Ardupilot) but it's a full micro uav platform, with 4 x ESC BLHEli32 with telemetry, WIFI ESP8266, Li-Ion based with 18650 holders from easily swaps the battery, 1 facing down rangefinder for low height altitude, and last generation inertial sensors

Re: ArduBee – A micro drone for open source development

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I've known about ArduPilot for a long time, never even heard of HoverflyOpen. The only reference I found for HoverflyOpen is this: https://www.parallax.com/product/31500 Comparing that to the ArduBee isn't really much of a comparison. The only advantage I see is that HoverflyOpen currently exists, while ArduBee looks like they are still in the preparing-to-Kickstart phase. If there's more out there for HoverflyOpen,…

That's really it: you can grab all the code and schems from there. There was a community but it shut down when the FAA regs about drones >250grams came out.

We are trying to shape ArduBee as an excellent platform for 100g-200g micro uav develop and to enable urban swarm experimentations, indoor and outdoor!

Re: ArduBee – A micro drone for open source development

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I don't remember what was the price range but it was cheat. I think we speak about it in the end of their talk in the ArduPillot unconference. Check on ArduPilot YouTube channel for their talk. What is impressive it the integration on this drone : that give a good flight time with low weight. That is a big advantage against current weight based regulation in numerous country. And of course ArduPilot integration give…

A 5" ArduPilot quad will probably run you about $150, maybe $200 tops, depending.

It's not so easy to stay under $200 if you mean all parts apart the RC radio. I mean 4 motors + 4 ESC BLHEli32 with telemetry + FC + WIFI, compass, 1 down-facing rangefinder, .. in particular for the FC if you select these components with quality chips and sensors it starts to be quite challenging. Furthermore, if you would like to develop swarm applications the time spent to create the fleet is not to be underestimated. Last plus its a platform with 1 single common 18650 LI-Ion battery for higher flight time in comparison to the usual LiPo.

Re: ArduBee – A micro drone for open source development

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A 5" ArduPilot quad will probably run you about $150, maybe $200 tops, depending.

It's not so easy to stay under $200 if you mean all parts apart the RC radio. I mean 4 motors + 4 ESC BLHEli32 with telemetry + FC + WIFI, compass, 1 down-facing rangefinder, .. in particular for the FC if you select these components with quality chips and sensors it starts to be quite challenging. Furthermore, if you would like to develop swarm applications the time spent to create the fleet is not to be underestima…

Yes, it depends on what kind of sensors you get. I meant just with GPS, 4 BLHeli ESCs will run you around $40, 4 motors another $40, Kakute F7 controller another $50, $30 for the frame, $8 for the GPS, $10 for the receiver, $5 if you want an extra PDB, it's not that bad.

If you add sensors it does add up though, you're right.

Re: ArduBee – A micro drone for open source development

#60
This looks really cool, but tbh when I saw the name micro drone I expected something crazyflie-sized[0] more than this.

Which is not a complaint, by the way! The crazyflie is so small that it becomes quite the limitation in a few ways. Really curious how the slightly larger size of the ArduBee compares in practice - probably has a bit more stability and power.

[0] https://www.bitcraze.io/products/crazyflie-2-1/

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square%E2%80%93cube_law

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