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Re: Fastmail Labels Beta

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Post by seb314 » Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 3:57 PM UTC

erdaniels wrote: post #19

Might as well put it here since Fastmail doesn’t come up often. Does anyone find Fastmail’s spam detection to be pretty mediocre? I usually get a few obviously spam emails a week in my inbox. The volume is low so I don’t mind it but that’s really the one thing I miss from Gmail.

yes, e.g. thunderbird's builtin junk filter seemed much better to me. Gmail's too.

I believe I saw somewhere that fastmail's spamfilter may have a 'feature' that whitelists mails from certain senders so that spam gets through if it was forwarded via my university account.

There even was an option to tell Fastmail about these forwarding accounts, but it didn't seem to work, maybe due to multi-hop forwards.

Re: Fastmail Labels Beta

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Post by mb_72 » Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 3:57 PM UTC

3fe9a03ccd14ca5 wrote: post #47

While I sympathize with a company providing a good service and being paid accordingly, $5 a month still seems too high for email.

$5 / month is still pretty close to $0 / month for many people. I transitioned from Gmail -> Fastmail a year ago, and I'm very happy with all aspects (reliability, features etc). Would be fine with paying > $5 month if that's what it took.

Re: Fastmail Labels Beta

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Post by kugelblitz » Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 4:08 PM UTC

nnutter wrote: post #29

If you have a spouse and/or kids, and you want them to use FastMail for the same reason you do, consider putting pressure on FastMail to offer a (reasonable) family plan. I’ve been a happy customer for a decade but they’ve raised their prices (which would affect new accounts) and do not offer a family plan so this year be my last year with them. Edit: typo

Same here. I have 2 Fastmail accounts (1 personal, 1 business, paid 2 years in advance for both because I'm certain I will stick around), and use Amazon Prime Family, Spotify Premium Family... would really like to use a Fastmail Family. I use the Professional Plan on my personal account, but my wife would use much much less GB, but I would need to add her with her own 100 GB Professional plan.

Re: Fastmail Labels Beta

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Post by bradam » Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 4:14 PM UTC

nnutter wrote: post #29

If you have a spouse and/or kids, and you want them to use FastMail for the same reason you do, consider putting pressure on FastMail to offer a (reasonable) family plan. I’ve been a happy customer for a decade but they’ve raised their prices (which would affect new accounts) and do not offer a family plan so this year be my last year with them. Edit: typo

From a business point of view I think that creating a family plan would likely decrease their revenue (in the short term), as lot of small businesses/professional users would abuse this

Re: Fastmail Labels Beta

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Post by tjoff » Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 4:19 PM UTC

nnutter wrote: post #29

If you have a spouse and/or kids, and you want them to use FastMail for the same reason you do, consider putting pressure on FastMail to offer a (reasonable) family plan. I’ve been a happy customer for a decade but they’ve raised their prices (which would affect new accounts) and do not offer a family plan so this year be my last year with them. Edit: typo

This is the only reason I'm not on fastmail.

While I'll easily pay $5 for myself and a few more I'm basically forcing all emails on my domains to go through fastmail. And if I want to lend the domain name for relatives to use for email it seems like a rip-off to expect them to pay 5*$5 a month for a family with three kids.

It really annoys me that you can not use the Basic account (which regardless is very restricted) with a domain. By all means, require that the account that manages the domain at the Standard level but as it is now there is no sensible way to allow add some low-volume mail accounts for relatives or family members that aren't tech-savvy.

Re: Fastmail Labels Beta

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Post by tilolebo » Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 4:21 PM UTC

floatingatoll wrote: post #39

tilolebo wrote: post #5

Does it work with Spark?

Does Spark implement the JMAP protocol (successor to IMAP)?

Doesn't look like it.

But searching for "spark + jmap" return interesting results, haha

Re: Fastmail Labels Beta

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Post by chrismorgan » Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 4:26 PM UTC

lars_francke wrote: post #50

It's not quite clear to me: Can these rules be applied to already existing mails at creation time? This is convenient in Gmail and when I last looked at fastmail in 2014 this wasn't possible. This was the support answer: "I am sorry, but our filters only work at email delivery time. You can't really use them on emails already delivered to your account. However, to work on already delivered emails, I would suggest you…

Since about a month ago, yes: https://fastmail.blog/2020/03/23/email-organization-filters/

Re: Fastmail Labels Beta

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Post by chrismorgan » Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 4:31 PM UTC

everybodyknows wrote: post #31

>Add colors to your Labels ... >Switching back to Folders mode: ... Your labels will be converted into Folders. Upon converting back to Folder mode, what happens to our painstakingly entered per-label color assignments? As a Fastmail user, this worries me, as on its face suggesting a destructive bulk state change to all metadata of the account.

In the backend, there’s no difference between labels and mailboxes. This switch is purely a boolean that instructs the the webmail client which set of behaviours to use.

Your colours will remain intact if you switch between the two. Mailboxes can have colours too.

Re: Fastmail Labels Beta

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Post by darinpantley » Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 4:33 PM UTC

lars_francke wrote: post #50

It's not quite clear to me: Can these rules be applied to already existing mails at creation time? This is convenient in Gmail and when I last looked at fastmail in 2014 this wasn't possible. This was the support answer: "I am sorry, but our filters only work at email delivery time. You can't really use them on emails already delivered to your account. However, to work on already delivered emails, I would suggest you…

I enabled the new rules that support labels and opted into the beta. If you create a new rule that automatically applies a label, you can choose to apply it to "All matching conversations now" or "New matching messages on arrival."

Re: Fastmail Labels Beta

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 4:37 PM UTC

everybodyknows wrote: post #31

>Add colors to your Labels ... >Switching back to Folders mode: ... Your labels will be converted into Folders. Upon converting back to Folder mode, what happens to our painstakingly entered per-label color assignments? As a Fastmail user, this worries me, as on its face suggesting a destructive bulk state change to all metadata of the account.

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