Hangouts is not that bad
Sure it mostly works. But when your livelihood depends on online videoconferencing the last 10% of reliability that Zoom provides is extremely important
Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
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Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
#52How do people feel about BlueJeans?
They are banned at my work. We are told to wear trousers.
Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
#53God please don't make me use a non-zoom video conferencing tool! I have used about a dozen over the years in my role as a consultant, and Zoom has been by far the most reliable. I’m hopeful lots of good can come from the scrutiny, but please Zoom get your act together so I don’t have to use some other buggy thing that doesn’t actually work.
Use Jitsi
Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
#54What's surprising to me is that it was allowed before. They have had their own videochat solution for years, so I would expect the usual "eat your own dogfood" approach.
They've probably run in to a similar issue to Apple whereby they've found their consumer-grade "phone auntie susan once a week" offerings don't stand up to the needs of everyone working remotely needing screen sharing, hot seating in and out all day long chats.
We're using MS Teams and it seems to be pretty great for us (team of about 15), we use Skype to contact the remaining 20ish more junior staff who don't need Teams licenses just to be able to keep in touch with their work and keep the face to face communication going.
Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
#55Is there any technical merit to this ban? Why would forcing use of web version mitigate any concerns? (The concerns I have heard are lack of proper end-to-end encryption, servers in China and the possibility to join chatrooms by guessing a name (zoom-bombing)).
Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
#56Same in my org. Employees cannot setup Zoom meetings but can join meetings set by others from outside the org but only via browser. Zoom apps are banned and all installed apps in managed devices will be removed by IT.
Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
#57What's surprising to me is that it was allowed before. They have had their own videochat solution for years, so I would expect the usual "eat your own dogfood" approach.
You need to be able to test the competition. A former head of IE used Netscape as his principal browser to stay informed of how it worked.
Obsess over your competitors, not your customers!(?)
Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
#58How do people feel about BlueJeans?
From a usability perspective, it worked decently for me for about a week, then stopped working (dying upon opening) for about a week. Now it seems to work again. This is on the Linux (X11) client.
Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
#59Hangouts is not that bad
Yeah, it's working, sometimes for most of the participants. Than turns your computer into a toaster before it clogs it completely.
Agreed. This is my biggest complaint with it, the functionality is amazing but if you're on any sort of laptop the poor thing will melt halfway through a meeting.
Re: Google bans Zoom from employees' computers
#60God please don't make me use a non-zoom video conferencing tool! I have used about a dozen over the years in my role as a consultant, and Zoom has been by far the most reliable. I’m hopeful lots of good can come from the scrutiny, but please Zoom get your act together so I don’t have to use some other buggy thing that doesn’t actually work.
I knew I would get downvoted. But folks seriously don’t remember the pain before Zoom. And the current pain anytime we have to use a GoToMeeting, Google Meet, Webex or other tool that barely functions. Human interaction that actually works right now is so important. And I simply have a hard time trusting another product to actually do the call reliably
I'd second that. It's the first tool I've used that felt like more than just a resolution upgrade from what we had back in like 2002(!).