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Re: Cloud9 IDE - Your code anytime, anywhere

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post #11

Not to sound cheap, but the first thing I note is the pricing. It's a little confusing. Does 33 cents per day mean that I'm only charged on days that I use it? So, if I use it Monday - Friday, I'll typically pay 7 Euros per month rather than 10 Euros? Or is it merely saying that it's only 33 cents per day? I'm also unsure what you mean by a workspace. In the UI photos, there's the concept of a "project", but I'm unsu…

Great comments. So I just answered about pricing on a comment below, but here's the gist of it: We charge per day to give you the flexibility of the cloud. Cloud9 is not an IDE alone, it's your tooling + test environment in the Cloud. So it's hosted, hosting costs money and we charge you for it. The idea is that if you are doing a commercial project with a good hourly rate, then paying 50 cents a day for the platform…

So, the one thing that you didn't answer was the difference between a "project" and a "workspace" if there is one. I do have hobby things that aren't open source where 50 cents per day would be doable, if unwelcome. However, if it's 50 cents per day per project, that can add up pretty fast and $55/mo isn't a trivial cost considering that I can run my development and test stuff off my machine (granted, with the caveat of having to do all the annoying setup myself).

I'll probably get an account for open-source later today to play around with, but if your Ruby stuff is really good (when it lands) and works well for collaboration, I could easily justify $15/mo to my boss and sometimes one isn't trying to create the solution for every cheap hobbyist out there. It can be good to be the Basecamp of IDEs and maybe that's how you should sell it (in contrast to my comparisons to Eclipse and RubyMine).

Re: Cloud9 IDE - Your code anytime, anywhere

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It's still buggy: * Sometimes when loading a project, it gets stuck at "Loading..." * When editing a file, sometimes the Enter button doesn't return. It works if I hold the Enter key down but then it adds a ton of returns. * The buttons on the right don't really do anything yet, except for the collaborators section. There isn't a label or hint box so I'm not sure what exactly they are for. With that said, I love the…

Thanks for the reports Melvin. We're fixing the project loading. I haven't been able to reproduce the stuck Enter button yet. The buttons on the right are used for debugging. I'll make sure we'll add some tooltips on them.

There are a couple places in the CSS where Tahoma or Trebuchet MS are given as the font families without any fallbacks - lots of us linux folks don't have fonts like Tahoma, so an Arial or Verdana fallback would be nice so we don't see our ugly default serif fonts.

Re: Cloud9 IDE - Your code anytime, anywhere

#53
post #39

What about basic IDE functionality such as folding, code/content assist, etc.?

Cloud9IDE is based on Ace*

Ace does not yet support code folding I think.

It was discussed as possible feature but not yet implemented as far as I know: http://groups.google.com/group/cloud9-ide/browse_thread/thre...

*an open source project based on the work from the people at Cloud9IDE (ajax.org) and Mozilla (Bespin / SkyWriter

Re: Cloud9 IDE - Your code anytime, anywhere

#55
post #15

This is based on ACE, which was formerly known as Skywriter, or Mozilla Bespin. http://ace.ajax.org/ http://c9.io/about.html

Sorta. There were actually three Skywriters: Bespin prototype (Thunderhead-based), Bespin Reboot (SproutCore/jQuery-based), and ACE. ACE postdates the rename from Bespin to Skywriter. They originated as three completely separate codebases, although there's been a fair amount of cross-pollination.

ACE didn't begin as a Mozilla project, although it was finally chosen as the basis on which to build Skywriter the product (which will be used for the Firefox Add-ons Builder, in particular).

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