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The Benefits of Being a Female Software Engineer

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Re: The Benefits of Being a Female Software Engineer

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Are you promoting or opposing that stereotype?

i just admire them [women].

'a woman can make three things out of nothing: a tragedy, a hairstyle, and a salad'

a russian sexist proverb (maybe internatnl dont know 4 sure)

Re: The Benefits of Being a Female Software Engineer

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It depends what you mean by "artificially", imo. If our profession is being so badly misrepresented to the extent that women who would otherwise enjoy a career in engineering are driven elsewhere, then I think our society has a problem that we should give significant attention.

Do you feel the same way about the fact that only ~20% of social workers are men?

Or worse, 90%+ of elementary school teachers are woman.

Re: The Benefits of Being a Female Software Engineer

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Lets be honest here.

A lot of people are not going to like this type of post (as witnessed by the response here), but like any news outlet, sensationalist news sells. Jean Hsu is just following Gary V's advice and building up brand equity. There is no better way than to use your various circumstances in life to build a considerable amount of valley buzz.

Well played. I would do it too if I were in your shoes.

PS. Out of the last 10 hires I made for my previous startup, 3 of them were woman. I believe that's higher than industry standards.

Re: The Benefits of Being a Female Software Engineer

#54

Lets be honest here. A lot of people are not going to like this type of post (as witnessed by the response here), but like any news outlet, sensationalist news sells. Jean Hsu is just following Gary V's advice and building up brand equity. There is no better way than to use your various circumstances in life to build a considerable amount of valley buzz. Well played. I would do it too if I were in your shoes. PS. Out…

IMO, this type of buzz is no more than flamebait. But maybe my view of things is skewed.

PS. 30% women hires is pretty much the industry average.

Re: The Benefits of Being a Female Software Engineer

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Sorry, I can't hear about gender in engineering jobs anymore. The likelihood that you will see a blog post about the "benefits of being a male software engineer" is exactly the same as the likelihood to see a blog post about the "benefits of being a male social worker". We do not need to artificially try to bring in more engineers of a certain gender just because the numbers don't make sense. And we do not need more…

And this is precisely why we need still more posts. You know why we don't need a "benefits of being a male software engineer" post? Because every day is a "benefits of being a male software engineer" day for male software engineers. You should probably have a read of http://amptoons.com/blog/the-male-privilege-checklist/ . As a rule when it comes to this sort of material, if it makes you feel uncomfortable and defens…

Oh, no, please not Derailing For Dummies. It'll certainly reduce the number of replies you get, but not in a good way...

Re: The Benefits of Being a Female Software Engineer

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She doesn't mention it, but another great thing about being an engineer is that engineers are quite egalitarian and the evaluation criteria is often very objective (speed of the code, complexity of the algorithm, etc.). As a result, women just have to be good at what they do, and there's hardly any discrimination. In other fields, often, for a woman to just be good is not enough; there is overt (or covert) discrimina…

I don't know. Engineers in general may be more impressed with skill than non-engineers, but as a woman in a technical field, I do feel constant pressure to not merely meet, but exceed, the abilities of my male peers in order to receive the same level of respect. I've felt it all my life, even as far back as middle and high school, competing in math competitions and our school's academic team, and being in the honors…

I think it's likely that your male peers, those who are interested in excellence, are also feeling that same pressure. I'm not suggesting that everything is equal, because it patently isn't, but the constant pressure to exceed the abilities of your peers is common, and I believe is motivating and even healthy. Someone's got to be the best at foo; if foo is important, why should you be the best at it and let others be the best at bar, baaz, quux, etc?

I've also obviously made mistakes and while the mistake spotlight is shining in your face, it feels pretty magnified, especially if you're one who has previously earned significant technical respect. For three years, I led the group in our company responsible for post-morteming every production issue, and reporting to our business leadership in a weekly meeting every issue that cost us more than $2000. In all that time, and in the rest of my two decades in the field, I don't think I've ever sensed a whiff of "you made that mistake because of your extra X chromosome..." (unfamiliar with Leah Culver, but will google now)

Re: The Benefits of Being a Female Software Engineer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you feel the same way about the fact that only ~20% of social workers are men?

Or worse, 90%+ of elementary school teachers are woman.

my wife works in public health, a field that seems to be 90% female. My wife's office is much more gender skewed than mine.

If doctors didn't make so much $, I am convinced that women would make up the majority of doctors.

Re: The Benefits of Being a Female Software Engineer

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Do you feel the same way about the fact that only ~20% of social workers are men?

Or worse, 90%+ of elementary school teachers are woman.

I absolutely think it's a problem that the vast majority of elementary school teachers are women.

I don't think it's inherently terrible to have fields that are dominated by one gender or another but I do think that in the case of school teachers men are being pushed away by social forces and it's detrimental to all children to be taught only by women.

Re: The Benefits of Being a Female Software Engineer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you feel the same way about the fact that only ~20% of social workers are men?

Or worse, 90%+ of elementary school teachers are woman.

As far as I'm concerned this is a problem worse than the "no female engineers" problem. Little boys need role models and examples to grow into men. Even those with a good dad need them.

And I bet that other teachers appreciate there being a man around, just as I have found that a workplace that includes women engineers is a much nicer place to work than one that doesn't.

Re: The Benefits of Being a Female Software Engineer

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Sorry, I can't hear about gender in engineering jobs anymore. The likelihood that you will see a blog post about the "benefits of being a male software engineer" is exactly the same as the likelihood to see a blog post about the "benefits of being a male social worker". We do not need to artificially try to bring in more engineers of a certain gender just because the numbers don't make sense. And we do not need more…

  The likelihood that you will see a blog post about the
  "benefits of being a male software engineer" is exactly the
  same as the likelihood to see a blog post about the
  "benefits of being a male social worker".
You draw the wrong conclusion from this observation. You are not taking into account that male social workers are nowhere near as inclined to keep a blog as software engineers are. In fact, in more traditional media, regular stories about the working experiences of, for instance, male nurses have been quite common for decades.
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