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Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer

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Post by manigandham »

jjoonathan wrote: post #42
manigandham wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is standard language to cover everything in normal use. Billing details is obvious. Profile info is provided when you signup and use the service. The system info is used to run and optimize the calls. Zoom isn't actively scraping your info, and there's 0 evidence of anything in the Tweet.

Lawyerspeak: "It's just boilerplate." Translation: "Yeah, that's one of the parts where we really screw you, but you don't have a choice, lol."

You have a choice to not use Zoom.

Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer

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Post by raverbashing »

threatofrain wrote: post #2

From https://zoom.us/privacy : > Whether you have Zoom account or not, we may collect Personal Data from or about you when you use or otherwise interact with our Products. We may gather the following categories of Personal Data about you: > - Information commonly used to identify you, such as your name, user name, physical address, email address, phone numbers, and other similar identifiers > - Information about your…

Yes if you use the app you need to enter some information for example, profile, login to an account, etc

That being said, I don't see anything surprising on the list.

> such as your name, user name, physical address, email address, phone numbers, and other similar identifiers

That sounds like billing information

Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer

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Post by flyinghamster »

jfolkins wrote: post #39

Super timely. Even on my linux box I noticed yesterday that zoom, even though I had "closed" the application, was still running `ps -ef | grep zoom` so I killed it. After reading this, I've deleted it too. Super weird.

I saw a tray icon after I closed it out when I ran it this morning, on Xubuntu with the Cinnamon desktop. I right-clicked it and selected Exit, and it did indeed exit.

ETA: Checking the dpkg file listing shows that everything goes into /opt/zoom except a /usr/bin/zoom symlink to /opt/zoom/ZoomLauncher.

Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer

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Post by robin_reala »

threatofrain wrote: post #2

From https://zoom.us/privacy : > Whether you have Zoom account or not, we may collect Personal Data from or about you when you use or otherwise interact with our Products. We may gather the following categories of Personal Data about you: > - Information commonly used to identify you, such as your name, user name, physical address, email address, phone numbers, and other similar identifiers > - Information about your…

The GDPR’s specific, granular and informed clauses for opt-in couldn’t have been more timely. I wonder how long it is before Zoom have to stop providing services to the EU?

Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer

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Post by gsich »

kelnos wrote: post #40
threatofrain wrote: post #2

From https://zoom.us/privacy : > Whether you have Zoom account or not, we may collect Personal Data from or about you when you use or otherwise interact with our Products. We may gather the following categories of Personal Data about you: > - Information commonly used to identify you, such as your name, user name, physical address, email address, phone numbers, and other similar identifiers > - Information about your…

So, all this doesn't sound great, but... the specific accusation in the tweet is that they're tracking other applications that are open. Their privacy policy does not say they do that, and the Zoom twitter account says they don't either[0]. Now, it's a matter of trust, of course (and after [1] I wouldn't blame people for a lack of trust), but to state authoritatively that Zoom tracks other open applications seems lik…

All points are so vague that this behaviour might be in either:

- General information about your product and service preferences

- Information about your device, network, and internet connection ...

- Information about your usage of or other interaction with our Products

- Other information you upload, provide, or create while using the service

Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer

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Post by manigandham »

CivBase wrote: post #47
manigandham wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is standard language to cover everything in normal use. Billing details is obvious. Profile info is provided when you signup and use the service. The system info is used to run and optimize the calls. Zoom isn't actively scraping your info, and there's 0 evidence of anything in the Tweet.

Yet. There is an incentive to do so and they have taken measures to legally protect themselves if they do. That's grounds enough for alarm, even without evidence of them actually doing it.

Alarm for what? It's enterprise video conferencing tech. They make their money from subscriptions. Your personal data is rather useless to them and now a liability under data regulations.

Worrying about Zoom here (and I'm not sure the tweet is accurate) seems to ignore all context of the product and business.

Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer

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Post by gsich »

manigandham wrote: post #23
neonate wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your name, physical address, email address, phone number, employment, credit card, Facebook profile, IP address, MAC address, device ID...is not that bad?

That data is either required to run or provided to them by you directly.

MAC address? Unless they have some Layer2 detection shit running they don't need that. And besides, they wouldn't need it on their servers.

Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer

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Post by chadlavi »

discreditable wrote: post #37

When someone sends you a zoom invite, cancel the download, then click the having problems link to download again. Cancel it again. It will show you a link to join by browser. A few other meeting apps have dark patterns like this. One of my favorite things about Hangouts Meet is it's web first.

Thanks for this! I've just been refusing to use it
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