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Airbnb’s loss nearly doubles in fourth quarter, before virus

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Re: Airbnb’s loss nearly doubles in fourth quarter, before virus

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My experience with AirBnb has been good but often I feel I miss something. If possible I always almost choose a hotel, because it seems cleaner, service oriented, often has breakfast and a place to have a drink or a coffee. There are places that is more suitable for renting a private place, but in where there are tourists there are often better offers at hotels.

I'm the opposite, as well. We recently visited the US for a month - our travel agent booked hotels in Anaheim and San Diego for us, and we used Airbnb for the rest. The first hotel was fine, but barely. The second was horrendous - it stank, the carpets were wet and so dirty our socks turned black. We bailed and booked an Airbnb. All the Airbnbs that we booked were at least as good as we expected them to be, usually better.

It's the same story at home in Australia.

The caveat, perhaps, is that as a family of 6 we have trouble finding hotel rooms. We also usually book out full places, and want no interaction with the host unless things go wrong.

Re: Airbnb’s loss nearly doubles in fourth quarter, before virus

#52

My experience with AirBnb has been good but often I feel I miss something. If possible I always almost choose a hotel, because it seems cleaner, service oriented, often has breakfast and a place to have a drink or a coffee. There are places that is more suitable for renting a private place, but in where there are tourists there are often better offers at hotels.

The best advantage of a hotel, from my point of view, is that you know they won't cancel on you last minute.

Re: Airbnb’s loss nearly doubles in fourth quarter, before virus

#54

I'd imagine there's a sizable group of people who think Airbnb is only worth it if the price (and maybe location) is significantly better than a hotel, and that seems to be less true as the company matures.

It's also about facilities. Having a full kitchen and separate rooms makes a world of difference when you're traveling with kids.

Re: Airbnb’s loss nearly doubles in fourth quarter, before virus

#55

I'd imagine there's a sizable group of people who think Airbnb is only worth it if the price (and maybe location) is significantly better than a hotel, and that seems to be less true as the company matures.

There's also a significant group of people who thinks AirBnb works very well at the 2x-4x hotel price for a much nicer space. Hotels simply don't have enough of those rooms or if those rooms do exist they are considered to be suites that are billed at ridiculous daily rate. Edit - Examples pulled from the notes from 2019: Paris - AirBNB $650 a night, 3rd story walk-up ~1900 sq feet apartment with a balcony. Hotel pri…

In Europe this is totally not true. I use Airbnb almost twice month when I travel to some tango event anywhere in Europe.

I always choose Airbnb because it is cheaper than an ok hotel but almost always better, never worse.

Outliers: gut feeling says less than 5% over 6 years.

Re: Airbnb’s loss nearly doubles in fourth quarter, before virus

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post #42

Airbnb is a shitty company. Last october we traveled to Seoul and couldn't find the location of the apartment we booked. Even the local taxi driver couldn't find it after circling the area for ~30 minutes. We called the host during the entire 30 minutes and didn't get through to them. After about 1 hour of time, we decided to call it quits and go book a hotel because it was 10pm at night and our kids needed to sleep.…

You're basically conflating different expectations in living conditions to being dishonest reviews.

Your example of Tokyo feels absolutely tone deaf to me as someone who has been there multiple times. That's just the reality of the Tokyo rent market. The places are tiny and that's how the culture is there.

Re: Airbnb’s loss nearly doubles in fourth quarter, before virus

#57

I have started using hotels more lately after almost exclusively booking with airbnb for several years. 1 thing that I really appreciate about Airbnb still is that it allows you to stay in areas that usually don't have a lot of hotels, like Manhattan Beach CA or some other mostly residential area that also makes sense for tourist to stay. I would hate for them to fail and lose those options on a large scale

VRBO worked just fine before Airbnb was a thing.

Re: Airbnb’s loss nearly doubles in fourth quarter, before virus

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post #42

Airbnb is a shitty company. Last october we traveled to Seoul and couldn't find the location of the apartment we booked. Even the local taxi driver couldn't find it after circling the area for ~30 minutes. We called the host during the entire 30 minutes and didn't get through to them. After about 1 hour of time, we decided to call it quits and go book a hotel because it was 10pm at night and our kids needed to sleep.…

I find it a bit naive to take small children along with you into unknown situations like that. I question your judgement after repeating the mistake. I think Airbnb floats on questionable judgement and people are starting to catch on.

Re: Airbnb’s loss nearly doubles in fourth quarter, before virus

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post #42

Airbnb is a shitty company. Last october we traveled to Seoul and couldn't find the location of the apartment we booked. Even the local taxi driver couldn't find it after circling the area for ~30 minutes. We called the host during the entire 30 minutes and didn't get through to them. After about 1 hour of time, we decided to call it quits and go book a hotel because it was 10pm at night and our kids needed to sleep.…

I friend of mine had her host cancel a couple of days before her several-day Christmas trip. Of course everything else was crazy expensive by then so she ended up missing Christmas. Airbnb refunded her $16.

Re: Airbnb’s loss nearly doubles in fourth quarter, before virus

#60

I've had bad experiences with multiple Airbnbs including: - showing up at night with the key not in the agreed location, and not being able to contact the owner until the next day - showing up and someone else was already in the unit - a webcam was plugged in and placed on the bedside table with no warning - conditions in the unit were significantly worse than those shown in the photos All these listings had great re…

Yup I'm utterly fed up with AirBnb and won't consider using them again.
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