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Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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post #11

Smart move! Ignoring the best practice of preventing loss of life during pandemics will be a costly mistake!

In the press conference that was just held the minister of public health commented that he had been on a conference call with his Italian counterpart that had strongly advised him to shut everything down NOW, and not make the waiting mistake they did in Italy.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

#53
post #8

I wonder if the US will see a similar shutdown in the coming weeks.

Seattle area schools just shut down, and earlier today the governor put restrictions on gatherings of more than 250 people. Seems like it’s moving pretty fast. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/inslee-or...

And a New York suburb is being quarantined by the national guard.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/new-rochelle-coronav...

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

#54

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A virologist mentioned that kids up until 19 basically don't get sick from this virus, something like 0.2%, and even if they do its not as hard on them as on adult in their 40ies or older. So indeed very counter productive

Do you mean that they do not catch the virus or that they do not have any severe symptoms but can still transmit?

He means the former, but it's actually the latter.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

#55
post #11

Smart move! Ignoring the best practice of preventing loss of life during pandemics will be a costly mistake!

According to cdc expert, kids up to 19 mostly don't get sick, or if they do, it's not as bad as in adults over 40 https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw

Everyone is possibly a transmitter. We are protecting the old and weak, not the young and healthy.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

#56
post #8

I wonder if the US will see a similar shutdown in the coming weeks.

it won't be mandated by the federal government nation wide but you'll see it (and it's already started in some places) at the county level and maybe state level.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

#57

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Or, alternatively, everyone's freaking out over something that just isn't as big a deal as everyone's making it out to be.

This is what lethal ignorance looks like.

0.5% lethal according to the latest stats — or 99.5% non-lethal for you optimists out there.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

#58
post #49

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I disagree here. Denmark is acting proactively and shutting down schools for 2 weeks. This is a "rip the band aid off early" type of move. By shutting down everything for 2 weeks, they effectively self-quarantine during the entire incubation period and will dramatically slow the rate of the virus. China, on the other hand, did not do this, and they were forced to shut down schools for 6 months. These moves are HARD a…

for the two weeks as of day one of the changes. What if the virus shows up on day 15, the day after things return to normal? Will they stay shutdown for another two weeks?

Yes. The PM made clear that the two weeks were for now, and might be extended, modified, or amended with further restrictions.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

#59
post #39

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The risks of not freaking out and it decimating the populace should easily outweigh the risks of freaking out and it not having an impact. It's very difficult to even rationalize the latter because a freakout might mean the impact is negligible.

At this point more than enough data exists to show the population will not be decimated.

At this point more than enough data exists to show the population will suffer ~1% losses. We shouldn't need 10% to freak out. Not to mention long-tail fatalities that might arise if it becomes an annual virus like the flu. When all that had to happen was people treat it seriously to begin with rather than saying "But the flu is way worse".

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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post #52
post #11

Smart move! Ignoring the best practice of preventing loss of life during pandemics will be a costly mistake!

In the press conference that was just held the minister of public health commented that he had been on a conference call with his Italian counterpart that had strongly advised him to shut everything down NOW, and not make the waiting mistake they did in Italy.

They, and almost every other European country, have already made that mistake. This decision is comparable to what Italy did on February 29th when they had 10% of the cases they have today. But Denmark is (if you correct for the smaller population) already at 60% of the cases that Italy has.

Switzerland and Norway are in that same boat. Spain is getting there, it's the country whose numbers are growing the fastest. France has elections on the 15th, 'nuff said.

Only Germany is comparable to that 10%, and they aren't doing anything either. They do have more ICU beds than others, but it isn't a great consolation.

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