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Re: Firefox 74

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Post by Ascetik »

comboy wrote: post #40
stavros wrote: post #14

The Facebook container is great, but I wish there was an option for the built-in Multi-Account containers to work this way. I've been doing what the Facebook Container extension does, but with built-in containers, and the experience is very clunky. The two biggest issues are that I can't give the container a list of domains beforehand and say "everything under google.com should open here". I have to go to each Google…

I use FF, I don't use FB, but I still think this is wrong. Browser is not a place to decide which companies are good and which are bad. As much as I despise Facebook I still don't think it's fair. "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". All companies should have the same access to the technology in user's browser. Favoring Google by Chrome seems no different than blocking…

Define what you mean by "fair". It is Mozilla's (right) opinion that Facebook is a hugely corrupt corporation and entity, the technology itself doesn't just work on Fedbook, they just use Fedbook as their prime example.

Re: Firefox 74

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Post by cptskippy »

stavros wrote: post #14

The Facebook container is great, but I wish there was an option for the built-in Multi-Account containers to work this way. I've been doing what the Facebook Container extension does, but with built-in containers, and the experience is very clunky. The two biggest issues are that I can't give the container a list of domains beforehand and say "everything under google.com should open here". I have to go to each Google…

> whenever I click a link on Gmail that goes to Github, Github opens in the Google container

Google intercepts clicks and redirects them through a Google Domain to track clickthru. If you're in Gmail and hover over a link it will show the actual destination but onclick your browser opens a mail.google.com URL that redirects to the destination URL.

Re: Firefox 74

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Post by jmkni »

theandrewbailey wrote: post #23

> Firefox has added support for the new JavaScript optional chaining operator (?.) Cool! This sounds like something all programming languages should have had decades ago. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Refe...

This is only a recent addition to Typescript as well.

I'm working on a project built on Angular7 at the moment, and the version of Typescript we use is too old for this operator.

What happens when the browser supports an operator the version of Typescript you are using doesn't?

Re: Firefox 74

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Post by comboy »

jakelazaroff wrote: post #43
comboy wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use FF, I don't use FB, but I still think this is wrong. Browser is not a place to decide which companies are good and which are bad. As much as I despise Facebook I still don't think it's fair. "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". All companies should have the same access to the technology in user's browser. Favoring Google by Chrome seems no different than blocking…

How is this tantamount to deciding which companies are good and bad? Mozilla have simply identified an extremely common way people are tracked online and are doing their best to contain it.

Same rules should apply to everybody. You should be able to decide some rules, even heuristics that can catch tracking across multiple sites and suggest user to disable it rather than pointing to entity and applying different rules to it than to everybody else.

Re: Firefox 74

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Post by StavrosK »

cptskippy wrote: post #52
stavros wrote: post #14

The Facebook container is great, but I wish there was an option for the built-in Multi-Account containers to work this way. I've been doing what the Facebook Container extension does, but with built-in containers, and the experience is very clunky. The two biggest issues are that I can't give the container a list of domains beforehand and say "everything under google.com should open here". I have to go to each Google…

> whenever I click a link on Gmail that goes to Github, Github opens in the Google container Google intercepts clicks and redirects them through a Google Domain to track clickthru. If you're in Gmail and hover over a link it will show the actual destination but onclick your browser opens a mail.google.com URL that redirects to the destination URL.

It doesn't matter though, the tracking domain would run in the container and github outside it.

Re: Firefox 74

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Post by cypressious »

stavros wrote: post #14

The Facebook container is great, but I wish there was an option for the built-in Multi-Account containers to work this way. I've been doing what the Facebook Container extension does, but with built-in containers, and the experience is very clunky. The two biggest issues are that I can't give the container a list of domains beforehand and say "everything under google.com should open here". I have to go to each Google…

> The other major issue is that there's no way to have links outside those domains open outside the container, so whenever I click a link on Gmail that goes to Github, Github opens in the Google container and I always have to copy/paste the address to a new tab.

I had the same problem so I made a small extension that does that:

https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/container-outgoi...

Re: Firefox 74

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Post by jve »

jmkni wrote: post #53
theandrewbailey wrote: post #23

> Firefox has added support for the new JavaScript optional chaining operator (?.) Cool! This sounds like something all programming languages should have had decades ago. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Refe...

This is only a recent addition to Typescript as well. I'm working on a project built on Angular7 at the moment, and the version of Typescript we use is too old for this operator. What happens when the browser supports an operator the version of Typescript you are using doesn't?

> What happens when the browser supports an operator the version of Typescript you are using doesn't?

Well I'm certain that it won't compile. Your .ts file must go through tsc after all before you get .js

Re: Firefox 74

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Post by kiwidrew »

stavros wrote: post #14

The Facebook container is great, but I wish there was an option for the built-in Multi-Account containers to work this way. I've been doing what the Facebook Container extension does, but with built-in containers, and the experience is very clunky. The two biggest issues are that I can't give the container a list of domains beforehand and say "everything under google.com should open here". I have to go to each Google…

I also wish that the basic container feature worked like this.

In the meantime, I am very happy with the unofficial "Google Container" addon [1], which is just a copy of the Facebook container that works its magic on Google domains instead.

Give it a try. It doesn't interfere with the official Facebook container addon.

[1] https://github.com/containers-everywhere/contain-google

Re: Firefox 74

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Post by kibwen »

h4l0 wrote: post #3
MivLives wrote: post #2

It's interesting that the patch notes seem to have references to a specific site. Did they really make changes to Firefox that only target Instagram?

> Facebook Container prevents Facebook... Considering that Mozilla is already protecting their users from specific target sites, it is only logical to assume that they are also improving user experience for a website which has 1B+ users. Edit: I still cannot overcome the fact that both products are owned by the same company.

Note that Facebook Container is an external add-on, not included with the default browser.

Re: Firefox 74

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Post by StavrosK »

kiwidrew wrote: post #58
stavros wrote: post #14

The Facebook container is great, but I wish there was an option for the built-in Multi-Account containers to work this way. I've been doing what the Facebook Container extension does, but with built-in containers, and the experience is very clunky. The two biggest issues are that I can't give the container a list of domains beforehand and say "everything under google.com should open here". I have to go to each Google…

I also wish that the basic container feature worked like this. In the meantime, I am very happy with the unofficial "Google Container" addon [1], which is just a copy of the Facebook container that works its magic on Google domains instead. Give it a try. It doesn't interfere with the official Facebook container addon. [1] https://github.com/containers-everywhere/contain-google

That's great, thank you!
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