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Re: Scientists monitored brains replaying memories in real time

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Something always worth remembering: The brain is not even as well understood as we'd like to. For what it's worth, they might just be measuring something that's analogous to a data bus. E.g. in PC terms: I can probe the data bus' copper traces on a PCB, but that doesn't really tell me how the actual flash memory silicone works.

(This doesn't make the research pointless though).

Re: Scientists monitored brains replaying memories in real time

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To me, it much more closely resembles a key-value retrieval system. I wonder if we could learn anything about that by training an artificial neural net to perform key-value storage?

I think it's more like a graph with edges between associated bits of information. It's easy to remember things in order, but random access is hard unless you've established links for it. For example, if you memorized how to play a song, each part links to the next but harder to ask someone what is the n-th note in a song, even if they can play the song. It would explain why making associations is a useful memory tech…

Not only that, but sometimes as happened to me recently with my own song, you completely forget how to play it until you hear it and start playing it, then suddenly you remember every little note and nuance you do did, but only while you're playing it and good luck explaining to someone what you're doing even as you're doing it.

Re: Scientists monitored brains replaying memories in real time

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"NIH researchers found that our brains may store memories in neuronal firing patterns that are replayed fractions of a second before remembering." So it's like a phonograph record. First the track is inscribed from the source sound (storing a memory). Then the needle is placed in a groove (by some triggering experience). Then the needle traverses the inscription, playing back the recording (remembering). The brain ju…

To me, it much more closely resembles a key-value retrieval system. I wonder if we could learn anything about that by training an artificial neural net to perform key-value storage?

Yes, this idea is called sparse distributed memory https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparse_distributed_memory

Re: Scientists monitored brains replaying memories in real time

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I’ve always wondered if there is a way to stimulate a brain so that you could replay a memory so vividly that it practically feels like you are there reliving it again, like the way you might experience a dream but with more clarity, almost like a form of time travel. I remember reading about some experiment in a psychology class where an old woman’s brain was probed and she was able to hear her highschool graduation…

Take some ketamine :) ... I'm stating this as someone with first hand experience, so it may seem hand wavy and "made up": memories are visual and those visuals directly trigger your nervous system which then responds and often impacts the visual memory replay (often cutting it off or moving to something else). Your nervous system is also constantly telling your visual system what to "lookup". Ketamine dissociates the…

How do I start?

Re: Scientists monitored brains replaying memories in real time

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It's a skill that you can practice through meditation. But false-memories and fabricated memories will shoot this idea down long before that stuff comes into play. Memory is no where near reliable enough to be used as evidence like that.

Witness statements are used right now, and they're memory filtered through people's perceptions and desires; potentially way worse.

Correct - and they're now gradually having less and less reliability assigned to them, which is good.
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