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Folding@home takes up the fight against COVID-19

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Re: Folding@home takes up the fight against COVID-19

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So how is using home electronics an efficient use of electricity (and money) for doing these tasks? What are the economics of this? Wouldn't it be more efficient to donate the money you'd spend on electricity and equipment?

The efficient use of money part is that they already have the spare capacity. The electricity is likely worse but it is a rounding error compared to the years of continuous operation to equal the new hardware cost. Plus it is donated electricity anyway.

Re: Folding@home takes up the fight against COVID-19

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post #49

So how is using home electronics an efficient use of electricity (and money) for doing these tasks? What are the economics of this? Wouldn't it be more efficient to donate the money you'd spend on electricity and equipment?

Donating money towards what? Setting up a new supercomputer dedicated to this sort of work comes with a lot of overhead and most crucially time delay. Even slapping a leftover raspberry pi online is worth more if done in a couple minutes.

Edit: the RaspberryPi is not supported, unfortunately.

Re: Folding@home takes up the fight against COVID-19

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wow their UX is atrocious. * Download page doesn't explain why there are 3 packages and which you need * On installing first & clicking next it pins all CPU cores to 100% * The package that presumably controls this silently fails to install - on a brand new up to date ubuntu install. ...so now I'm stuck with a service pinning everything to 100% (while in use) and no way to control it. Uninstalled. I'll stick to BOINC…

THANK YOU!!!! I was just going to comment this.

I went to their website and gave it the 5 second test. I couldn't figure out ANYTHING through their homepage in a 5 second scan. There is ZERO call to action that makes any sense on their homepage. WTF is folding? Why not just say, HELP US FIND A CURE? What's funny is that I can bet these projects sit in a conference room and wonder why they aren't getting the support they deserve and it's all because they NEVER explain themselves correcly to the average layman.

Re: Folding@home takes up the fight against COVID-19

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post #49

So how is using home electronics an efficient use of electricity (and money) for doing these tasks? What are the economics of this? Wouldn't it be more efficient to donate the money you'd spend on electricity and equipment?

I'm running my GTX1080Ti for this, GPU-Z is showing me that the card is using 200W while running, let's be generous and say the entire computer uses 300W while running these computations. That means 7.2kW used per day, or 223kW used per month. At my current electricity price of £0.12/kWh, this is costing me £26 a month.

I have no idea who I could even donate this to so it would make any impact whatsoever. But I know for certain that there is literally zero chance they could rent a GTX1080Ti-equipped machine for £26/month anywhere in the world.

Re: Folding@home takes up the fight against COVID-19

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Why are they not appealing to the major cloud providers at this time to use any spare resources couldn't they set it up so that the cloud providers could count using resources as donation to a charity?

Google has just done this with AlphaFold a few minutes ago: https://deepmind.com/research/open-source/computational-pred... It's just so fresh it hasn't been posted anywhere yet: "Normally we’d wait to publish this work until it had been peer-reviewed for an academic journal. However, given the potential seriousness and time-sensitivity of the situation, we’re releasing the predicted structures as we have them now, u…

Kudos to Google for doing this. It is so much more effective to marshall a small number of extremely powerful cloud providers backed by very qualified and active techies, than a large number of weak providers (people using their home machines).

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There used to be a FoldingAtHome application for the Playstation 3 that I ran for a while. It's a shame it never made its way to other consoles because they're properly underutilised during the day, for me at least.

It wasn't great though - it didn't use spare cycles. It had to be started and run exclusively. If they baked it in to use cycles when games were paused for instance or made it switch to FAH instead of powering off, it could have been so much more.

Considering PS3 only had 256MB of ram and was using all of it for computations or when running games, I think the chances were pretty slim.

Re: Folding@home takes up the fight against COVID-19

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post #14

Why are they not appealing to the major cloud providers at this time to use any spare resources couldn't they set it up so that the cloud providers could count using resources as donation to a charity?

Google has just done this with AlphaFold a few minutes ago: https://deepmind.com/research/open-source/computational-pred... It's just so fresh it hasn't been posted anywhere yet: "Normally we’d wait to publish this work until it had been peer-reviewed for an academic journal. However, given the potential seriousness and time-sensitivity of the situation, we’re releasing the predicted structures as we have them now, u…

Not quite, Google are running their own code.

Re: Folding@home takes up the fight against COVID-19

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post #49

So how is using home electronics an efficient use of electricity (and money) for doing these tasks? What are the economics of this? Wouldn't it be more efficient to donate the money you'd spend on electricity and equipment?

If it's cold outside, the waste heat is basically a space heater.

Re: Folding@home takes up the fight against COVID-19

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or obsolete, donated ASICS that that are now a legit part of the network.

Afaik, asics are unsuitable for most types of computation, except those they were designed to run (ie mining a specific type of crypto currency)

The clue is in the name!
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