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Why did I wake up before my alarm clock went off? (2015)

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Re: Why did I wake up before my alarm clock went off? (2015)

#51
I don't see how this reasoning makes any sense: you just need to look at the actual clock time to find out if the alarm went off or not.

For instance: alarm set for 8 AM.

You wake up, look at the clock: if it says 7:59AM or earlier, you woke up before it had a chance to ring. If it says 8:00AM or anything past that, it already went off.

Unless, of course, you have an alarm that does not show you the current time. Otherwise, it's pretty easy to figure out what's happening.

Re: Why did I wake up before my alarm clock went off? (2015)

#52
post #31

The real question: Why is it that if you don't set your alarm you won't wake up before it would normally go off, had you set it.

Come again? English is such a funny language.

They wonder why this natural waking up before the alarm only works if you actually set the alarm and does not work if you do not set it.

Re: Why did I wake up before my alarm clock went off? (2015)

#54

Nope. I slept in a common room with 3 brothers. If my alarm went off (half an hour before they needed to get up) I got a whopping. So I would wake up moments before the alarm, scramble from bed to my desk and slap the snooze button sometimes just as the buzzer started to sound. This guy is over-thinking it. And underestimating the human brain.

It should be easy to test. Just set the alarm at a random time. Something like 5 to 10 minutes earlier.

To do it blindly you can have someone else do it, scramble the clock, use an app,...

Re: Why did I wake up before my alarm clock went off? (2015)

#55
post #54

Nope. I slept in a common room with 3 brothers. If my alarm went off (half an hour before they needed to get up) I got a whopping. So I would wake up moments before the alarm, scramble from bed to my desk and slap the snooze button sometimes just as the buzzer started to sound. This guy is over-thinking it. And underestimating the human brain.

It should be easy to test. Just set the alarm at a random time. Something like 5 to 10 minutes earlier. To do it blindly you can have someone else do it, scramble the clock, use an app,...

In my experience, it only works if I know the time and want to wake up at that time. I'm more likely to experience it the more important it is that I wake up on time. If I have to wake up for travel purposes, it's almost guaranteed that I'll wake up before the alarm.

Re: Why did I wake up before my alarm clock went off? (2015)

#56
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Though I don't have the common room experience that you had, I too regularly wake before my alarm goes off with more than enough time to turn it off. The answer isn't that I have a clock in my brain, but rather that waking phases occur regularly during sleep. I start to wake up, think "what time is it?" and check my phone. If it's within 30 minutes of my alarm, I just turn my alarm off and get up. No magic required.

That's a reasonable scenario. But not the one I experienced. My history is of waking up seconds before the required time.

For what it's worth, I have the same experience as you. I wake up, once, maybe a minute before the alarm is supposed to go off. And I'm immediately clearly awake, not groggy, not sleepy, no gradual slow awakening.

Re: Why did I wake up before my alarm clock went off? (2015)

#57

100 years from now the conversation will be about how back in the day we didn't know all of the ways time, space and quantum mechanics worked and we thought it was just a coincidence or some psychological brain function that has a highly tuned timer.

If there was some kind of backwards-time effect going on, then you would expect the experience of waking up just before unexpected interruptions to be just as common as waking up before scheduled interruptions (alarms). Personally I have a lot of experiences of waking up right before an alarm that was scheduled at a time I knew and not as many experiences of waking up right before something unscheduled.

Re: Why did I wake up before my alarm clock went off? (2015)

#58
Besides the overlooked possibility that people are just better at waking up at specific times than is generally expected (which I think is true and probably explains most cases, but maybe not all), there's another explanation the author didn't consider: it's possible that people frequently half-wake-up, and then fall back asleep and forget the experience. However, if you half-wake-up right before the alarm, then the alarm interrupts you before you get the chance to fall back asleep and forget the experience. You just think that you unusually woke up right before the alarm, without remembering the many other times you woke up in the morning not immediately before the alarm.

I used to have an alarm clock very close to my bed, and I would be able to turn it off or hit the snooze button very quickly after it went off without getting up. I believe I could hit the button in my sleep, or wake up just enough to hit it and then fall back asleep fast enough to forget the experience. I remember many times waking up at my alarm starting to go off at 9:30am (or some other round ten minute interval time after 9am) even though I scheduled it at 9am; I must have snoozed it several times and fell back to sleep quickly enough to forget the experience.

I even switched to a phone alarm clock app where I had to solve simple arithmetic problems in order to snooze or disable the alarm, and I had the same experience. I'm not sure it if it makes sense to say that I was solving the math problems in my sleep; I think it's more correct to say I woke up, solved it, and then fell back asleep and forgot the experience because I fell asleep quickly enough.

Re: Why did I wake up before my alarm clock went off? (2015)

#59
There's a simpler explanation: your brain is associating other environmental (internal or external) conditions with the alarm going off, and reacting to those instead of (or in addition to) the actual alarm.

This seems to happen to me pretty often, given that I'll wake up in "the middle of the night" (usually because I need to use the bathroom, or because I want a glass of water), then check the clock, realize that the alarm goes off in 3 minutes, and grumble about the lost sleep time.

Re: Why did I wake up before my alarm clock went off? (2015)

#60
post #54

Nope. I slept in a common room with 3 brothers. If my alarm went off (half an hour before they needed to get up) I got a whopping. So I would wake up moments before the alarm, scramble from bed to my desk and slap the snooze button sometimes just as the buzzer started to sound. This guy is over-thinking it. And underestimating the human brain.

It should be easy to test. Just set the alarm at a random time. Something like 5 to 10 minutes earlier. To do it blindly you can have someone else do it, scramble the clock, use an app,...

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