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Re: Fake Goods Sold by AliExpress, Amazon, eBay, Walmart and Wish

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Post by julianlam »

nimajneb wrote: post #46
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. My partner and I have both let our Prime subscriptions lapse because of this shit. We no longer buy from Amazon.

I let mine lapse a couple years ago because I realized I don't actually care that much if a package comes in 2 days or 3-5. I then noticed a lot of my Amazon shipments were coming in 3 days anyways.

I've found that in recent years, non-Prime orders will sit at the "ordered" phase for an extra few days, before finally being shipped at the same speed as a prime order.

I thought it might've been a holiday crush sort of situation, but it continued well past the new year (2019)

Re: Fake Goods Sold by AliExpress, Amazon, eBay, Walmart and Wish

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Post by dfxm12 »

werber wrote: post #15

People actively seek out fakes, especially in the luxury space. For every person who would be glad that their faux product was intercepted, there's just as many who would be mad they didn't get their Gukki belt, or just not notice.

People actively seek out fakes

Then they should be marketed (and priced) as such.

Re: Fake Goods Sold by AliExpress, Amazon, eBay, Walmart and Wish

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Post by nkrisc »

quickthrowman wrote: post #29
nkrisc wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I wouldn't. But I'm not a low voltage contractor. To hold two Cat5e cables running through my basement, though? Sure. Heck I'd use tape if it wasn't a pain to remove later. If I was buying for a commercial project I would use a supplier I trusted.

That’s fair, the 1000 pack is what contractors generally buy, which is why I wanted to make the point that counterfeit junk could make its way into permanent installations in commercial spaces and eventually fail. Not all contractors use quality materials, though generally the ones that offer guaranteed work and stand behind it spend the extra money for Panduit/Legrand/Etc.

To be fair to you, I probably misstated when I said 1000, it was just an example. I think what I actually bought was really closer to 200 or something.

Re: Fake Goods Sold by AliExpress, Amazon, eBay, Walmart and Wish

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Post by dkdk8283 »

quickthrowman wrote: post #13
nkrisc wrote: post #4

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I have as well, but Amazon isn't bad when what you need is cheap crap (a bag of 1000 cable ties, for example). Bonus: they keep offering me free trials of Prime so I just save up a cart of stuff and then buy it when they give me free shipping.

Would you order those cable ties if you were a low-voltage contractor suspending a bundle of ~100 cables for 200’ above an ACT grid ceiling? Cheap cable ties may work for bundling cables in your home rig or home stereo setup, but they may not be sufficient for a more robust load that a commercial application demands.

In your specific example: Yes, and I would use more ties so the failure of one isn’t a problem. I wouldn’t however sell a customer a fake BMS panel or other electronics.

I believe the right thing to do is use wax cord in this circumstance anyway. I’d use a cheap one too.

Re: Fake Goods Sold by AliExpress, Amazon, eBay, Walmart and Wish

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Post by dfxm12 »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #40
freeone3000 wrote: post #20

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If you're buying off of a Shopify site, the only endorsement is from the seller. And you know who you're buying from. Amazon is allowing these companies to sell in Amazon's name. I'm not charged by YouCantBelieveItsNotNike, my CC bill says Amazon. I return these products to Amazon. Amazon is the seller.

>If you're buying off of a Shopify site, the only endorsement is from the seller. Isn't that basically the same as on eBay and Alibaba? Ebay has a curated front page but it never shows stuff sold from a jurisdiction distant enough to not be accountable for shady practices. It seems like amazon is the odd one out here since they hold inventory, ship it and sell a lot of things themselves.

FYI, as an official policy, eBay doesn't allow counterfeit goods to be sold: https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-ite...

It's reasonable for shoppers to see this as an endorsement and assume eBay actually enforces this policy.

Re: Fake Goods Sold by AliExpress, Amazon, eBay, Walmart and Wish

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Post by mdszy »

julianlam wrote: post #51
nimajneb wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I let mine lapse a couple years ago because I realized I don't actually care that much if a package comes in 2 days or 3-5. I then noticed a lot of my Amazon shipments were coming in 3 days anyways.

I've found that in recent years, non-Prime orders will sit at the "ordered" phase for an extra few days, before finally being shipped at the same speed as a prime order. I thought it might've been a holiday crush sort of situation, but it continued well past the new year (2019)

I've noticed the same thing.

I'm almost certain that at the scale Amazon works at, there has to be a priority queue for these sorts of things. There's no way they could make Prime work if they just changed the shipping method to make it faster, there has to be order fulfilment prioritization too.

Re: Fake Goods Sold by AliExpress, Amazon, eBay, Walmart and Wish

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Post by dfxm12 »

friendly_fren wrote: post #38
jsjddbbwj wrote: post #17

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If you buy any health product, makeup, etc from AliExpress we should call this natural selection. Only half joking. I don't want to see AliExpress closed down just because some girl decided it was a good idea to buy lipstick there at an unbelievably low price.

People are downvoting this but it is true. Consumers have the responsibility to pay attention to where their goods come from. If you are buying something directly from China for an extremely cheap price, you shouldn't expect it to be genuine (not fake) or safe for bodily contact.

What if it is a counterfeit not coming directly from China? You can still be duped when the seller is stealing the pricing, ads and marketing materials of the genuine product.

Each product listing seemed legitimate, with some prices that compared to retail stores and official-looking advertisements.

This is what we're talking about here, not the marketing obvious knockoffs with comically misspelled brand names. Even the article talks about only authenticating the products after they were purchased and received.

Re: Fake Goods Sold by AliExpress, Amazon, eBay, Walmart and Wish

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Post by lochlan »

dfxm12 wrote: post #55
dsfyu404ed wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If you're buying off of a Shopify site, the only endorsement is from the seller. Isn't that basically the same as on eBay and Alibaba? Ebay has a curated front page but it never shows stuff sold from a jurisdiction distant enough to not be accountable for shady practices. It seems like amazon is the odd one out here since they hold inventory, ship it and sell a lot of things themselves.

FYI, as an official policy, eBay doesn't allow counterfeit goods to be sold: https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-ite... It's reasonable for shoppers to see this as an endorsement and assume eBay actually enforces this policy.

Counterfeit items, e.g. video games, are all over eBay. I’ve reported many auctions over the years as infringing and have never seen one taken down.

Re: Fake Goods Sold by AliExpress, Amazon, eBay, Walmart and Wish

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Post by jvagner »

My experience:

1) I've been a seller on Amazon. 5 figure SKU counts, branded products. I was constantly being asked to provide invoices to prove that I had the right to procure and resell the products I was listing. I was also beholden to their metric standards and got delisted from the Buy Box regularly, until I could improve my numbers (operational bumps while we refined our processes... the standards were high enough if we fumbled a little bit, circumstances required a bit of time and attention to restore SOPs to required levels).

Not sure what these other entities are doing, but within the bounds of what I interacted with, and the age of my account, I wouldn't have been able to stay on the platform and keep selling if my fulfillment, returns and customer service metrics didn't stay within the acceptable thresholds.

2) I buy from Amazon regularly... household items, books, etc. So far, never had an issue with fakes. Always Prime, usually Fulfilled By Amazon.

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