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Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

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Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

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I imagine a future where the workers are on the Irish side of the border but the servers are on the UK side of the border.

One still enjoys the tax advantages of the value being added on the Irish side, but also the relatively lax data requirements on the British side.

I am not pro or con anything, just pointing out the arb.

Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

#52

I imagine a future where the workers are on the Irish side of the border but the servers are on the UK side of the border. One still enjoys the tax advantages of the value being added on the Irish side, but also the relatively lax data requirements on the British side. I am not pro or con anything, just pointing out the arb.

Goals. I like our role models. I would have never independently perceived most of these opportunities and possibilities. Thank you Google and other multinationals, and the media for dissecting their expensive legal strategies.

Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

#54

I imagine a future where the workers are on the Irish side of the border but the servers are on the UK side of the border. One still enjoys the tax advantages of the value being added on the Irish side, but also the relatively lax data requirements on the British side. I am not pro or con anything, just pointing out the arb.

Britain already adopted GDPR-based data protection law. If anything, Brexit will tighten the situation by requiring the data of British to stay in Britain.

Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

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post #7

It is real. I just got an email about this from Google about my gmail account: - Your service provider and data controller is now Google LLC: Because the UK is leaving the EU, we’ve updated our Terms so that a United States-based company, Google LLC, is now your service provider instead of Google Ireland Limited. Google LLC will also become the data controller responsible for your information and complying with appli…

It seems very early to be making changes like this. Google must really benefit somehow from the change, otherwise they could leave it until much later in the year, and see what (if any) changes Parliament makes to privacy and data protection law in the UK.

In what way is it early? UK left the European Union late last year. Since then there only is a temporary agreement in place, with a deadline later this year. Given the seemingly strength of the Prime Minister (see recent cabinet reshuffling) and his unwillingness to extend companies doing business in Britain have to prepare.

Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

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post #34

The optics of this might look bad, but I cannot really fault Google for this move (and I frequently fault Google). They're facing a dilemma of regulatory uncertainty, and this move resolves this dilemma for them (at least, they seem to believe that). Anyone who has ever dealt with powerful regulatory agencies will probably agree that this resolution is the right move for the company, a move important enough that eati…

Pro-Brexiteers have often cited stronger bilateral ties, such as those with the US, as an advantage of Brexit. And of course, post-Brexit, Britain will be ever more reliant on the willingness of countries such as the US to cut deals with them. As an independent negotiator in these new deals, Britain will have less power to push back over silly things like data privacy; and as a member of Five Eyes anyway, they're all…

The recent Huawei 5G drama does seem to go against the grain of this. After all, if the UK had less power to push back, then clearly nobody has told them.

Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

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post #44

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Which two, and do you have a source?

Pardon my cynicism if I think it's likely Apple and Netflix. And they probably do that for everyone only because it doesn't eat into the main profit generators in their business models. Not many marketers paying Netflix to advertise their new natural soap line to targeted prospects I'd imagine.

One is Apple or Netflix and the other isn’t. I don’t feel comfortable sharing more specificity than that.

Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

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post #11

I don't completely understand what gives them the right to do so - legislation are still in place, GDPR & the rest are included.

Not sure why you are being down voted for this - we ratified GDPR under UK law, the UK Data Protection act of 2018 - until that law is repealed GPDR still applies under my understanding.

They might be simply preparing for that eventuality, and when the law changes they can quickly react. Apparently in the e-mail that the users got, they are claiming that nothing privacy wise will change, and that might indeed be true for now.

I think that also breaking the law might be easier. EU might not bother anymore penalizing them for a member that's already leaving, and UK alone will have very little force imposing penalties on an US corporation.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds really interesting. Would you mind sharing a resource to learn more about how the UK spies on US citizens?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement

GCHQ leader Robert Hannigan stepped down in Jan 2017. That name will be in future headlines.

Re: Google plans to move UK users' accounts outside EU jurisdiction

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post #7

It is real. I just got an email about this from Google about my gmail account: - Your service provider and data controller is now Google LLC: Because the UK is leaving the EU, we’ve updated our Terms so that a United States-based company, Google LLC, is now your service provider instead of Google Ireland Limited. Google LLC will also become the data controller responsible for your information and complying with appli…

> These changes to our Terms and privacy policy don’t affect your privacy settings or the way that we treat your information. This is such a blatant lie what the hell. The only reason for this move is specifically to treat your information in ways that are not legal now.

Alternate interpretation: it doesn't affect the way they treat your information because they weren't going to follow GDPR anyway.
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