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Prosecutors allege Micfo obtained 800k IPv4 addresses illegally

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Re: Prosecutors allege Micfo obtained 800k IPv4 addresses illegally

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Post by catalogia »

Mirioron wrote: post #33
tptacek wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No? The use of deception to obtain something of value that would not otherwise be given to you is the literal, legal definition of fraud?

So, where does that leave advertising? The entire purpose of advertising is to get somebody to spend money on a product they otherwise wouldn't have.

The advertising industry is hated by many people for exactly the parallels you've perceived.

Re: Prosecutors allege Micfo obtained 800k IPv4 addresses illegally

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Post by dang »

johnklos wrote: post #51

I wish HN had a filter which would block all posts which link to sites which require subscriptions.

If there's a workaround, it's ok. Users usually post workarounds in the thread, and did so in this one.

This is in the FAQ at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html and there's more explanation here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989

https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

Re: Prosecutors allege Micfo obtained 800k IPv4 addresses illegally

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Post by blitmap »

jacquesm wrote: post #41
cat199 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if shell companies are fraud, much of the economy is in trouble

Shell companies are not normally used for structuring. That's a different matter entirely. A shell company is usually a holding company, not a company created in order to deceive or to bypass a hard cap on some scarce resource.

Just FYI for others: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structuring

I didn't know there was a formal term for this. Splitting up money transfers to avoid detection of large sums moving around.

Re: Prosecutors allege Micfo obtained 800k IPv4 addresses illegally

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Post by Animats »

jacquesm wrote: post #41
cat199 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if shell companies are fraud, much of the economy is in trouble

Shell companies are not normally used for structuring. That's a different matter entirely. A shell company is usually a holding company, not a company created in order to deceive or to bypass a hard cap on some scarce resource.

Well, there are the fake registrars, such as DropCatch 345, DropCatch 346, DropCatch 347, ... DropCatch 1545. Those are all ICANN-accredited registrars.[1] ICANN parcels out dropped domains among all the registrars who want them at random. Having a thousand dummy registrars improves the odds. That's definitely "structuring" to hog Internet assets.

This is possible only because, while ICANN charges each registry when they acquire a domain, ICANN refunds that if they give the domain back within some time period.

[1] https://www.icann.org/registrar-reports/accreditation-qualif...

Re: Prosecutors allege Micfo obtained 800k IPv4 addresses illegally

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Post by jacquesm »

Animats wrote: post #55
jacquesm wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shell companies are not normally used for structuring. That's a different matter entirely. A shell company is usually a holding company, not a company created in order to deceive or to bypass a hard cap on some scarce resource.

Well, there are the fake registrars, such as DropCatch 345, DropCatch 346, DropCatch 347, ... DropCatch 1545. Those are all ICANN-accredited registrars.[1] ICANN parcels out dropped domains among all the registrars who want them at random. Having a thousand dummy registrars improves the odds. That's definitely "structuring" to hog Internet assets. This is possible only because, while ICANN charges each registry when…

ICANN is utterly dysfunctional, see .org debacle.

Re: Prosecutors allege Micfo obtained 800k IPv4 addresses illegally

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

jacquesm wrote: post #56
Animats wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, there are the fake registrars, such as DropCatch 345, DropCatch 346, DropCatch 347, ... DropCatch 1545. Those are all ICANN-accredited registrars.[1] ICANN parcels out dropped domains among all the registrars who want them at random. Having a thousand dummy registrars improves the odds. That's definitely "structuring" to hog Internet assets. This is possible only because, while ICANN charges each registry when…

ICANN is utterly dysfunctional, see .org debacle.

The .org debacle is evidence that ICANN is corrupt, not dysfunctional. That's an important distinction.
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