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WikiHow’s art is made by a network of freelancers, mostly in the Philippines

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Re: WikiHow’s art is made by a network of freelancers, mostly in the Philippines

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Because Medium used to promise it would never do this. https://www.niemanlab.org/2019/03/the-long-complicated-and-e...

That's what people get when they take promises of any kind seriously. I'm not excusing Medium, but at the same time I'm not going to hold some kind of false expectation over their head.

Oh, but we should hold it over their head. We very much should. Cynicism only hurts us and leaves us with a poorer way to communicate. Cynicism benefits Medium.

Re: WikiHow’s art is made by a network of freelancers, mostly in the Philippines

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I know editorializing is against the rules but I love the current title, "WikiHow's bizarre art is created by an army of freelancers in the Philippines", it sounds so quaint and absurd.

You can love what you love. I prefer a factual title.

The adjusted title is factual. 2+2=4 is factual. A title is not, because whoever created it had a purpose in mind (I'm being generous.)

Re: WikiHow’s art is made by a network of freelancers, mostly in the Philippines

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wikihow is a cancer on the internet, clogging google and google image results with inane how-to guides .for the purpose of generating ad revenue. It is not just that the guides are bad but they are engaging in keyword spamming by creating guides for things that don't even make sense

Web search is hard, and Google's results aren't stellar. News at 11. Why do you think we're on HN?

In terms of cancer, wikihow is pretty benign. I rarely use Google these days, but when I did, having results full of sites that use worse dark patterns like pintrest & quora & linked-in links was pretty common place.

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Saves more than a click because it requires you to sign in to read the article.

This isn't paywalled Medium content so you can simply find the close button and click it, be it on the sliding banner or the modal. That being said, that action does require an extra click.

It requires sign-in for me.

> To keep reading this story, create a free account.

Re: WikiHow’s art is made by a network of freelancers, mostly in the Philippines

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This isn't paywalled Medium content so you can simply find the close button and click it, be it on the sliding banner or the modal. That being said, that action does require an extra click.

It requires sign-in for me. > To keep reading this story, create a free account.

There is an 'X' on the modal window.

Re: WikiHow’s art is made by a network of freelancers, mostly in the Philippines

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wikihow is a cancer on the internet, clogging google and google image results with inane how-to guides .for the purpose of generating ad revenue. It is not just that the guides are bad but they are engaging in keyword spamming by creating guides for things that don't even make sense

> wikihow is a cancer on the internet, clogging google and google image results with inane how-to guides .for the purpose of generating ad revenue. It is not just that the guides are bad but they are engaging in keyword spamming by creating guides for things that don't even make sense

[citation needed]

But, seriously - you're alleging that they're a content farm. Can you substantiate that at all? Because from where I sit - as a former employee - I can attest that people working there genuinely believe in their mission to "teach anyone how to do anything." Moreover: it's a wiki! You can edit it! They have a thriving community of editors (not paid editors: community editors!) who work on the site, and frankly I don't think that describes content farms.

Calling wikiHow a cancer on the internet is just a huge overreach - there are actual content farms out there doing what you allege. wikiHow isn't one of them. It's absolutely fair to criticize the quality of the articles if you wish - but again; it's a wiki. Feel free to get involved if you don't like the quality.

Re: WikiHow’s art is made by a network of freelancers, mostly in the Philippines

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Getting to the bottom of one of the internet’s most ridiculously drawn mysteries Seems like quite a snotty article tbh. WikiHow's art has always reminded me of "How it Works" style children's books, it seems functional and clearly has made an impression in some quarters. By all means shed some light on it if that's interesting; I don't see the need for the condescending attitude though.

Devoid of context of the parent WikiHow article, the images are often surrealist and bizarre, which is why they've become something of a subcategory of memes.

Please look at the images in the article, if you haven't already. I made more than one audible guffaw just scrolling through them.

Re: WikiHow’s art is made by a network of freelancers, mostly in the Philippines

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OP's headline saves you a click, versus the original title: "We Finally Figured Out Who Makes wikiHow’s Bizarre Art"

Saving a click is probably an anti-goal of HN article titles.

I honestly prefer a headline that tells me a bit of the main point over one that doesn't.

Re: WikiHow’s art is made by a network of freelancers, mostly in the Philippines

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Why is it always Medium that's blamed for this but not mainstream news websites? I'm pretty sure I've been paywalled by sites like NYT yet people keep posting links to them.

Because Medium doesn’t author anything. It’s as if NYT consisted of nothing but “letters to the editor” (without an editor and not in response to anything that was previously published, because they would be publishing nothing in the equivalent scenario) and then decided to put up a paywall. There are countless free (and even ad-free) text-only hosting options available. Medium provides nothing of value to me as a co…

> Because Medium doesn’t author anything

OneZero is a publication owned and operated by Medium.

Re: WikiHow’s art is made by a network of freelancers, mostly in the Philippines

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Please don’t editorialize titles, four out of five times the editorialized title is strictly worse, and often it’s straight up wrong , like in this case. If you don’t like the original title due to omission of info, you can at least use the HTML title: > wikiHow’s art is made by a global network of freelancers, primarily in the Philippines. (Emphasis mine.)

The HTML doc title is "wikiHow’s Art Is Made By a Global Network of Freelancers, Primarily in the Philippines". That's too long to fit HN's 80 char limit, so it looks like the submitter made a good-faith attempt at shortening it, and an inaccuracy crept in that way—quite a minor inaccuracy. The submitted title ("WikiHow's art is created by an army of freelancers in the Philippines") was still far better than the sensational dross of the page heading.

HTML doc titles are a legit choice for "original title" in the HN guidelines' sense. In fact, they often say more directly what the article is about when the loudest title on a page is linkbait. That's exactly the case here, so I think the misleadingness of the submitted title ("WikiHow's art is created by an army of freelancers in the Philippines") was simply a casualty of HN's 80-char limit. That's pretty rare btw.

I've taken a crack at shortening it in a more accurate way.

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