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Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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Re: Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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As a Qt dev, neither option is appealing to me right now. Maybe when things calm down... By the way, the consensus in the Qt community is that this is bad news both for Qt and for the entire community.

And for the C++ community - not on mobiles. What gui framework can we now use - MFC and Gnome?

GNOME's C++ APIs are absolutely delicious for C++ developers who like modern, grown up C++.

Re: Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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I'm probably being unfair, I've never actually done any development in Objective-C (I have in C++), so I'm going on how it "looks" from the code I've seen, I just find it very unreadable. But in fairness I haven't tried to get into it, and I'm probably biased toward the C#/Java style syntax...

Your initial reaction to Obj-C is not at all uncommon amongst developers used to C++/Java/C#. My impression is that most of them quite like it once they get past the novelty.

As a counterpoint I've written ObjC code for over 5 years for Mac OS X and iOS, and I'm not a fan. Sure it's better than C++, but that should be in the dictionary under "damning with faint praise". Header files, primitive types, and reliance on raw pointers should have gone out 10 years ago. The kicker was when I switched to Android development last year; when a language makes Java look comparatively elegant and concise, that's not a good sign.

Re: Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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post #51

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And for the C++ community - not on mobiles. What gui framework can we now use - MFC and Gnome?

GNOME's C++ APIs are absolutely delicious for C++ developers who like modern, grown up C++.

I forgot - is this the year of the Linux desktop?

Re: Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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I did not know that :) So if you can use C++ on iOS, why the hell are people using the horror that is Objective-C?

because ... well ... you're uninformed and obj-c is not a horror?

See my reply within the thread above

Re: Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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I can see Silverlight perhaps finding a niche in internal application development - but that's a pretty big come down from the original goals of the technology (i.e. a Flash killer). So wouldn't that make Silverlight, if not dead, severely wounded?

Silverlight is competing internally with Windows Azure. (Some potential synergy there as well.)

What has Silverlight got to do with Azure? Don't see the link...

Re: Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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post #56

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Silverlight is competing internally with Windows Azure. (Some potential synergy there as well.)

What has Silverlight got to do with Azure? Don't see the link...

It's another way of running rich functionality in a browser. It might be advantageous in some situations to solve uncommon difficulties with distributing UIs. It won't necessarily be a tool for the common case.

Re: Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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post #56

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What has Silverlight got to do with Azure? Don't see the link...

It's another way of running rich functionality in a browser. It might be advantageous in some situations to solve uncommon difficulties with distributing UIs. It won't necessarily be a tool for the common case.

Azure is Microsofts cloud-computing platform, think you must mean something else?

Re: Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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It's another way of running rich functionality in a browser. It might be advantageous in some situations to solve uncommon difficulties with distributing UIs. It won't necessarily be a tool for the common case.

Azure is Microsofts cloud-computing platform, think you must mean something else?

Nope. I'm sure there will be corner cases where Silverlight will actually be just the right tool.

Re: Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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Why didn't they choose Android?

SE, Samsung, Motorola, HTC are all heavily invested in Android and are miles ahead of Nokia. They can chose to run an outside lane in that race, or they can lead up Windows Phone 7. All people with WP7 devices are just token efforts, Dell, LG aren't major players like the aforementioned companies are, HTC owe everything they have to Android. Nokia can take WP7 and become the market leader, with Microsoft investing he…

Also, don't forget that Nokia's CEO was the head of Microsoft's business division until last fall. I think that may have been a factor as well.
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