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Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer Stepping Down Amid Investigation

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Re: Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer Stepping Down Amid Investigation

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He forced the consequences onto her. None of these men will ever actually face consequences. They are all obscenely wealthy and well connected.

What did he force onto her?

Well she's stuck raising the son of an emotionally abusive sociopath.

Besides that he pressured her into quitting with promises of financial support, then left her with the baby and refused to pay.

I can't even comprehend the type of person who doesn't see the cruelty of this man. She trusted the wrong person, that doesn't justify his behavior.

Re: Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer Stepping Down Amid Investigation

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post #47

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Both people knew it was wrong, but Larry and Sergey's best buddy got promoted to become one of the most powerful executives on the planet and paid hundreds of millions of dollars, and the woman got pushed out of her job and left to support their kid herself.

She was forced out because it was against company policy. She wasnt forced out of google, but to a different department. And she voluntarily quit google, she was never fired. It's a sad story, but it's just adults making their own decisions that don't work out. > so I quit Google, signing whatever documents they required because likewise, I wanted to protect him

And David wasn't forced out for violating company policy because...? He's a man? He's Larry and Sergey's friend?

Re: Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer Stepping Down Amid Investigation

#53

Oh gross. Why can't powerful men behave themselves? Makes me grateful I'm not a powerful man.

> Why can't powerful men behave themselves?

They can behave themselves equally as well as not-powerful men, but they're just in more of a spotlight.

Re: Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer Stepping Down Amid Investigation

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post #28

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> After our son was born, I received a call from HR notifying me that one of us would have to leave the legal department where David was now Chief Legal Officer (...) This sounds like the worst possible policy I can think of. Get pregnant from your boss, and HR kicks you from the team! How does that help anyone?

They knew the relationship was against company policy from the get go, what did they think was going happen? Two people made a poor decision and have to live with the consequences? > aware that our relationship was in violation of Google’s new policy which went from “discouraging” direct-reporting-line relationships to outright banning them.

During manager training done by any lawyer worth their salt, it is drilled into you two hundred times that if you start a relationship with a subordinate, you have to declare this relationship to HR, you have to move jobs, and that you may be personally liable for any of the legal fallout that comes with workplace relationships/allegations of harassment/allegations of nepotism.

It seems that the execs don't get the same kind of training that line managers get. Or, perhaps, they are protected from the consequences. One set of rules for me, another for you...

Re: Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer Stepping Down Amid Investigation

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post #41

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He specifies that he was there over 20 years, prior to the company being incorporated, and only joined full-time in 2002. That being said: David Drummond is a terrible person[0], who only has been there this long because of Larry Page and Sergey Brin's protection, because they are terrible people too[1][2]. The way Google's highest executives have treated women is disgusting and inexcusable. And while Drummond may no…

Oh wow. > David would go for months or even years at a time completely ignoring my pleas to see his son — not even so much as a text to us, despite living about a mile away. I can see not having the desire to be with her and break up the relationship, but abandoning his child and not seeing them for years at a time is downright evil. It's so strange to hear how Google touts itself to be at the forefront of inclusivit…

What is "evil" about not wanting to see a child that you presumably didn't want to begin with? A woman with an unwanted pregnancy can abort. Men don't have that option. But that doesn't obligate them to an emotional bond with the child.

Re: Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer Stepping Down Amid Investigation

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I did but I don't take her comments after the disappointment at face value. How dare a married, billionaire cheater not settle down with her but continue to sleep with other women? She was an adult that entered in a consenting relationship with a married man (I can guess why), she admitted so much. Google policy or not, is irrelevant since both sides knew the deal.

It's not irrelevant, it's a blatant abuse of power. This guy is clearly a pretty sick sort of predator. > How dare a married, billionaire cheater not settle down with her but continue to sleep with other women? He basically got her fired and then bailed on her and their son. He refused to pay child support despite being a millionaire and is basically in an abusive relationship with her still. It's disgusting. It's th…

>>This guy is clearly a pretty sick sort of predator.

Maybe he was the prey. You cannot refuse to pay child support, it's one option you do not have. Play hard ball in response to stuff etc maybe, but you will pay in the end.

She should have named her price upfront. All consensual and he is a d*ck and a moron in a sense, as a billionaire, he could have used his pocket change and made her happy $$ wise. Now he gets bad press.

Re: Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer Stepping Down Amid Investigation

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He specifies that he was there over 20 years, prior to the company being incorporated, and only joined full-time in 2002. That being said: David Drummond is a terrible person[0], who only has been there this long because of Larry Page and Sergey Brin's protection, because they are terrible people too[1][2]. The way Google's highest executives have treated women is disgusting and inexcusable. And while Drummond may no…

Yes they are terrible people too. But "the way they have treated women"? ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS? The women who participated in these extra-marital affairs are every bit as evil!

Nah, women are victims with no agency, men are predators. Get with the times!

Re: Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer Stepping Down Amid Investigation

#59

Oh gross. Why can't powerful men behave themselves? Makes me grateful I'm not a powerful man.

> Why can't powerful men behave themselves? They can behave themselves equally as well as not-powerful men, but they're just in more of a spotlight.

I think it's more than that, powerful/rich people men are going to have more access to (consensual) sex than poor men.

Re: Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer Stepping Down Amid Investigation

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post #41

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Oh wow. > David would go for months or even years at a time completely ignoring my pleas to see his son — not even so much as a text to us, despite living about a mile away. I can see not having the desire to be with her and break up the relationship, but abandoning his child and not seeing them for years at a time is downright evil. It's so strange to hear how Google touts itself to be at the forefront of inclusivit…

What is "evil" about not wanting to see a child that you presumably didn't want to begin with? A woman with an unwanted pregnancy can abort. Men don't have that option. But that doesn't obligate them to an emotional bond with the child.

Read the article - he wanted the son until he didn't, and then he peaced out.
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