I'm quite tired of the framing of the climate change discussion, whether it exists or not. It is like you pondering whether your house is going to actually burn next year or not when you think about purchasing insurance. Completely idiotic question. What you are thinking is the risk (i.e probability times loss) of your house burning. So no, I am not going to tell you that the climate catastrophe is going to happen. W…
Climate change now detectable from any single day of weather at global scale
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Re: Climate change now detectable from any single day of weather at global scale
#52I want to hope people will adjust deliberately, but advertising has too much power over people. I cannot let myself gamble with the idea that humanity will be courageous enough to avoid destruction of this scale. The stakes are too high.
History always worked like this. It's a collection of new lessons that adjust the collective consciousness.
The future will progressively look like some Hollywood dystopia, until something will break politically, but it will be too late. Don't forget that the new deadline is the melting permafrost, which will snowball climate change into something that will make temperature rise much faster.
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#53Also climate change is undeniable. At the risk of stirring the controversy, the real questions have always been: how much of it is because of human activity? and if that's significant, how much power do we have to change it further?
Based on the evidence so far, I personally think modern civilization has triggered initial conditions for the warming cycle but is no longer the majority force for the continued change.
Re: Climate change now detectable from any single day of weather at global scale
#54Does anyone have a link to the paper? Also climate change is undeniable. At the risk of stirring the controversy, the real questions have always been: how much of it is because of human activity? and if that's significant, how much power do we have to change it further? Based on the evidence so far, I personally think modern civilization has triggered initial conditions for the warming cycle but is no longer the majo…
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#55People's financial incentives are not aligned with the climate's necessary modifications. The two won't be aligned until climate passes over its tipping point and enters an irreversible feedback loop.
Thing is the world's climate will not fail us gradually. Past the 'tipping point' the 'Geo-engineers' will be let out of the asylum and get to deploy their crackpot hail-Mary schemes playing fast and loose with a runaway high dimensional complex feedback system they (or we) barely are beginning to understand. There is no 'backup' on this planet. There is no 'safety net'. There is no 'oh shit, abort!' button. An optim…
Re: Climate change now detectable from any single day of weather at global scale
#56Publicly funded and supported climate change detection method that is essential to communicate to the public...behind a paywall. Disappointing at least.
Re: Climate change now detectable from any single day of weather at global scale
#57Does anyone have a link to the paper? Also climate change is undeniable. At the risk of stirring the controversy, the real questions have always been: how much of it is because of human activity? and if that's significant, how much power do we have to change it further? Based on the evidence so far, I personally think modern civilization has triggered initial conditions for the warming cycle but is no longer the majo…
What do you base that opinion on?
1. https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2785/unexpected-future-boost-o...
Re: Climate change now detectable from any single day of weather at global scale
#58Does anyone have a link to the paper? Also climate change is undeniable. At the risk of stirring the controversy, the real questions have always been: how much of it is because of human activity? and if that's significant, how much power do we have to change it further? Based on the evidence so far, I personally think modern civilization has triggered initial conditions for the warming cycle but is no longer the majo…
Just please don't make decisions that affect other people based on what you "personally think", when it's about facts that have actual truth values.
Re: Climate change now detectable from any single day of weather at global scale
#59Does anyone have a link to the paper? Also climate change is undeniable. At the risk of stirring the controversy, the real questions have always been: how much of it is because of human activity? and if that's significant, how much power do we have to change it further? Based on the evidence so far, I personally think modern civilization has triggered initial conditions for the warming cycle but is no longer the majo…
You can "personally think" whatever you want. You can "personally think" that 0 is 1, that frogs are a kind of cat, that the moon is made of cheese. Just please don't make decisions that affect other people based on what you "personally think", when it's about facts that have actual truth values .
By the way, every human makes decisions based on what they "personally think". Please share the "actual truth values" if you have them.