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36th Chaos Communication Congress – Streams

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Re: 36th Chaos Communication Congress – Streams

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Post by tpmx »

alehander42 wrote: post #33
hulano wrote: post #23

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Wtf? What the fuck are your political views that you are not allowed into the congress? And why do you think its a good argument of comparing kkk to something else? I don't even know whot you are comparing the kkk with.

seriously, i am surprised how possible is to flag normal comments, the previous comment on top of yours was pretty civil, i am really disappointed in HN community for such petty censorship

This is by design. HN tries to avoid controversial matters being discussed. The entire point of this discussion forum is to create value for YC by attracing/feeding potentential founders into their vortex. Political controversy is not good for business.

Even if something has hundreds of upvotes, it seems like all it takes is maybe 3-5 flags to get it buried. This is pathethic and needs to be called out at a larger scale.

Re: 36th Chaos Communication Congress – Streams

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Post by lhoff »

guiomie wrote: post #50
phlo wrote: post #14

PSA: All talks will be live-translated between English and German, and into one additional language (primarily into French or Spanish; on occasion there were translations into Russian and Mandarin) [0]. If you find any talks on the schedule [1] that seem interesting but are in a language you're not fluent in, use the 'native'/'translated' switcher in the video player. Subtitles will be available after congress, here…

Will they be on youtube? Id like to watch them when travelling.

Yes https://www.youtube.com/user/mediacccde

No livestreams though. Usually the delay between the talk and the release is a couple hours.

Re: 36th Chaos Communication Congress – Streams

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Post by patrickyeon »

s9w wrote: post #24
hulano wrote: post #23

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Wtf? What the fuck are your political views that you are not allowed into the congress? And why do you think its a good argument of comparing kkk to something else? I don't even know whot you are comparing the kkk with.

The ccc has a Unvereinbarkeitserklärung

For those who need to search (as I did), that seems to roughly translate to "declaration of non-compatibility". CCC had declared that members of far-right and racist or otherwise discriminatory groups are not welcome.

I can't speak for CCC, but if you feel excluded by this, you should be. If this hurts your feelings, that's too damn bad. Your feelings hurt our society.

Re: 36th Chaos Communication Congress – Streams

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Post by ATsch »

mam2 wrote: post #48
ATsch wrote: post #44

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The non-technical topics couldn't be more relevant today. The idea that tech just exists in a bubble, and that one does not need to concern themselves with any ethical or moral implications is causing more harm than ever before. Dismissing that as "social issues and knitting" is concerning to me. (knitting also being a notably feminine-coded activity)

You also have to cater to your user base. Otherwise theres no point going to that conference instead of reading medium articles.

The Chaos Communication Congresses have sold out in seconds every year for a decade. Visitor numbers are limited only by how many people they think they can fit. It is unrivaled in technical, medial and cultural relevancy in the region.

At that point, the question becomes not how you get people to come, but who you want at your event. And I'm very glad that for Congress, this means being unashamedly political, artistic, social, antifascist, inklusive. If that scares you away, that's by design.

Re: 36th Chaos Communication Congress – Streams

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Post by tpmx »

glogla wrote: post #49
ceeceecee wrote: post #45

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What's your definition of a terrorist organization? Antifa uses violence against opponents, vandalism, and arson to extort political concessions. There may not be global/regional leaders like in other terror groups, but people identify as being a member of the group and coordinate their efforts among each other.

Antifa is well explained in this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bgwS_FMZ3nQ Antifa means antifascist action - when there's fascists doing things, antifa appears to rry to stop them from doing fascist things. Antifa has no leaders and no real membership because it's just people standing against fascism. If someone identifies as a member, they are wrong and possibly fake.

In terms of organizational strategy it sounds sort of like that of Al Qaeda.

Re: 36th Chaos Communication Congress – Streams

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Post by sangnoir »

mam2 wrote: post #48
ATsch wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The non-technical topics couldn't be more relevant today. The idea that tech just exists in a bubble, and that one does not need to concern themselves with any ethical or moral implications is causing more harm than ever before. Dismissing that as "social issues and knitting" is concerning to me. (knitting also being a notably feminine-coded activity)

You also have to cater to your user base. Otherwise theres no point going to that conference instead of reading medium articles.

> You also have to cater to your user base.

I'm certain they are - it's possible those who don't like what they are doing are not the user base.

Re: 36th Chaos Communication Congress – Streams

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Post by glogla »

tpmx wrote: post #55
glogla wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Antifa is well explained in this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bgwS_FMZ3nQ Antifa means antifascist action - when there's fascists doing things, antifa appears to rry to stop them from doing fascist things. Antifa has no leaders and no real membership because it's just people standing against fascism. If someone identifies as a member, they are wrong and possibly fake.

In terms of organizational strategy it sounds sort of like that of Al Qaeda.

I suppose that as long as you ignore both their methods, goals and who are they fighting against, there would be similarities.

I'm not convinced of the usefulness of such excercise, though.

Re: 36th Chaos Communication Congress – Streams

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Post by tpmx »

glogla wrote: post #57
tpmx wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In terms of organizational strategy it sounds sort of like that of Al Qaeda.

I suppose that as long as you ignore both their methods, goals and who are they fighting against, there would be similarities. I'm not convinced of the usefulness of such excercise, though.

Goals and values, sure, they are obviously different. Methods? Not so sure there's a big difference.

Re: 36th Chaos Communication Congress – Streams

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Post by glogla »

tpmx wrote: post #58
glogla wrote: post #57

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I suppose that as long as you ignore both their methods, goals and who are they fighting against, there would be similarities. I'm not convinced of the usefulness of such excercise, though.

Goals and values, sure, they are obviously different. Methods? Not so sure there's a big difference.

You're not sure there's not a big difference between organising protests, and hitting building with airplanes or commiting bombing that killed thousands of people?

Really?

Re: 36th Chaos Communication Congress – Streams

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Post by tpmx »

glogla wrote: post #59
tpmx wrote: post #58

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Goals and values, sure, they are obviously different. Methods? Not so sure there's a big difference.

You're not sure there's not a big difference between organising protests, and hitting building with airplanes or commiting bombing that killed thousands of people? Really?

Bye.
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