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Re: Escaping San Francisco

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't move without visiting first, I found the place incredibly depressing. Dire poverty, brutal injustice, and blatant dysfunction at every corner, in one of the most moneyed cities in the world. A human centipede of grift at city scale. Nice bridge tho.

SF has problems like most major cities but your exaggeration is obviously ridiculous. Have you not traveled to 3rd world countries?

He just said he was in SF, so kind of

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#52

It's really sad that in US you have to ask for donations for your healthcare, this is absurd in a country on this level. I live in EU and I have been to US (and SFO) and I feel like live a more comfortable life here in EU. And I live in the "poorer" Slovakia (compared to west EU). I don't need to think about costs if I get sick or injured (+ I get social support in case I can't work during that time).

How long do you wait for medical stuff? In Poland wait is sometimes >1 year

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#53
post #39

This story makes no sense. $3700 can get you a nice 1 bedroom anywhere in SF, so it’s unclear why they couldn’t have found another place. If you’re renting, you find mold, and your landlord does nothing then by CA law you have the right to break your lease for unsafe living conditions. The author’s LinkedIn is filled with executive/founder/CEO roles (and claiming a 7 figure exit) and yet still needing to use GoFundMe…

City slickers man. Wouldn't recognize a black mold if it was poisoning them every day for 4 years.

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#54
post #3

As someone planning to move to San Francisco from outside the US soon, is living in SF really as bad as all the blogs make it to be? I chose SF mainly because of its proximity to the outdoors (which I value highly) and relative lack of a concrete jungle feeling compared to NYC EDIT: I have visited SF a few times for work before, and found the homelessness and filth to be confined to a few neighborhoods..

One of the cliche transplants from SF to NYC: The lack of concrete jungle, and that desire from people both who predated the tech deluge and those who arrived because of it (like you are planning to be) is precisely why it has become as bad as the blogs make it to be. I think some things are not as bad as the blogs make it be, and many things a lot worse. In the latter category: - there is now a "fire season". Yes, t…

> - the tourist industry is dying. People used to visit and fall in love with SF. Now, they get embarrassed about the state of the city (the more obvious stuff like homelessness, cost of living, filth) and leave trying to forget about this city.

Not true. From https://www.sftravel.com/article/san-francisco-travel-report...

> San Francisco Travel is reporting a total of 25.8 million visitors to the city in 2018 (with minor adjustments expected as final data is received), up 1.2 percent over 25.5 million in 2017.

Total spending by visitors was $10 billion, up 2.3 percent over $9.8 billion in 2017 (including spending on meetings and conventions).

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#55
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Now they'll move to another state and vote for similar progressive legislation, regulation and policy in there. Beautiful ratchet.

That's like saying Mississippi's republican policies have made it the poorest state in the country.

Well they def. do not have the tax base that SF has.

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#56

It's really sad that in US you have to ask for donations for your healthcare, this is absurd in a country on this level. I live in EU and I have been to US (and SFO) and I feel like live a more comfortable life here in EU. And I live in the "poorer" Slovakia (compared to west EU). I don't need to think about costs if I get sick or injured (+ I get social support in case I can't work during that time).

This might be, to be fair, because you’re likely a SWE and €800 a month in Bratislava gets you a three bedroom flat.

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look, everyone who’s happy (like me) with their loving conditions in SF isn’t going to write a blog post about how their apartment is fine.

I'm Doing Pretty Okay in San Francisco: A Manifesto

« Rent is a little expensive, my landlord is nice, my neighbors are ok: why I was not going to write a blog post about this »

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#58

> We eventually discovered the apartment building we were living in was built in 1908. Yes, we were living in a “sick” building that was over 100 years old, and never knew. We even found photos of our former apartment in historical archives dating back to the 1920’s. Is being just a hundred years old some kind of inherent problem? Obviously rotting is bad but they talk about discovering that it existed in 1908 like t…

American houses are made with cheap wood most of the time. Especially when you live in an older home, these are highly attractive to moulds when the building isn't maintained.

My hundred year old house was not well maintained, had a super wet basement, and never had mold. It was leaky enough to air that it stays dry.

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#59

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Never seen this in the Haight, Mission, Noe, really anything west of van ness. You can also not get a car :)

You're joking, right? Personal experiences with the other neighborhoods you've mentioned aside, the Haight has been a mecca for drug use and homeless youth for more than fifty years now.

The haight outside of the street itself is fine though.

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#60
post #3

As someone planning to move to San Francisco from outside the US soon, is living in SF really as bad as all the blogs make it to be? I chose SF mainly because of its proximity to the outdoors (which I value highly) and relative lack of a concrete jungle feeling compared to NYC EDIT: I have visited SF a few times for work before, and found the homelessness and filth to be confined to a few neighborhoods..

I’ll echo what other happy SF residents have said - it’s pretty great if you’re able to put yourself in a good part of town. Look I’ll be honest - your experience in SF is going to correlate with your ability to afford living here (I hate to say it but it’s true). If you’re up for spending $3-$5k/month on an apartment, you can live in a nice area (Hayes Valley, Marina, Cow Hollow, Pacific Heights, etc.) and life there is pretty darn good.

There’s access to some of the most spectacularly beautiful cycling on earth (just across the Golden Gate Bridge), the Presidio is a beautiful, Marina Green/Chrissy Field is beautiful, Golden Gate Park is beautiful, the food is amazing and there are wonderful new restaurants popping up all the time, the Mexican food (cheap!) is some of the best you’ll find.

There’s plenty of access to shared bikes and scooters (you don’t need to own a car), the CalTrain makes it reasonably easy to get down to the peninsula, and the competition between Uber and Lyft keeps ridesharing costs relatively low (for now - that’ll change).

It takes only 20-30 minutes to get to SFO, United has pretty good coverage of the whole world from there, so if you like to travel it’s easy to get away.

And, if you’re in tech, there’s plenty of other like-minded people around so there’s always a group of folks to nerd out with. And in general I’ve found people are very welcoming of newcomers (but of course this depends on the social circle you find yourself in - I perhaps got lucky).

I know this isn’t the “popular” opinion because it’s easy to hate on SF for the various PR things you read about (it’s expensive, there really is a bad homelessness/street encampment problem, and the NIMBYism/old coots voting in their own interest can be annoying), but if you happen to fit one of the molds this city is well-suited to handling, it’s quite lovely here.

That ALL being said - there are days where I look at how much I spend in rent and how much it would cost to own an apartment and I do daydream about moving to Vietnam and living like a king....

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