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Come on. Elmo did some awesome music videos. With Norah Jones: https://youtu.be/FEzxchU4RUY With Katy Perry: https://youtu.be/PwZnCkoX5gI And my absolute favorite, better than the original, with the Goo Goo Dolls: https://youtu.be/uGohKgNOXnU Edit... but... yes... the Elmo Numa Numa tops everything: https://youtu.be/2rAKszSX2tU (which btw, was indeed uploaded 11 years ago, but I think has an erroneous view count..)

Those all make the OP's point - none of them has grown-up lyrics. Compare to Dave Matthews and Grover singing about feelings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po5lHYJJQfw

“Everybody make like a train now”

https://youtu.be/E4TRvYAyt3k

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Come on. Elmo did some awesome music videos. With Norah Jones: https://youtu.be/FEzxchU4RUY With Katy Perry: https://youtu.be/PwZnCkoX5gI And my absolute favorite, better than the original, with the Goo Goo Dolls: https://youtu.be/uGohKgNOXnU Edit... but... yes... the Elmo Numa Numa tops everything: https://youtu.be/2rAKszSX2tU (which btw, was indeed uploaded 11 years ago, but I think has an erroneous view count..)

Children's entertainment from the Mr. Rodgers era combined lessons from therapy and child psychology to act as a supplement for parenting. I'm not sure what it is now, and it's especially confusing to me why PBS would be so interested in merchandising when they're supposedly a government agency.

PBS receives some funding from the US government, however it is an independent non-profit corporation.

My guess is they are trying to generate much-needed funds from toy sales, as well as compete for eyeballs with other more engaging children's programming ("bombardment" as Fred Rogers once called it).

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Elmo talked to children like babies. Before elmo, Sesame Street treated children as adults. They still do at times.

Come on. Elmo did some awesome music videos. With Norah Jones: https://youtu.be/FEzxchU4RUY With Katy Perry: https://youtu.be/PwZnCkoX5gI And my absolute favorite, better than the original, with the Goo Goo Dolls: https://youtu.be/uGohKgNOXnU Edit... but... yes... the Elmo Numa Numa tops everything: https://youtu.be/2rAKszSX2tU (which btw, was indeed uploaded 11 years ago, but I think has an erroneous view count..)

Ah, that Nora Jones piece is gold.

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Can anyone explain why PBS television stations are local rather than nationwide? I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a local program on one, but they seem to have a huge extra layer of bureaucracy in order to broadcast the same programs in a hundred different locations.

Can anyone explain why PBS television stations are local rather than nationwide? The stations are locally-owned. Usually by a college, school district, or local government entity. I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a local program on one Almost all PBS stations have local programming, even in small markets. Some of them award-winning programs. And a lot of the "national" shows are actually productions of local stations.…

Don't forget Bob Ross' The Joy of Painting from WIPB in Muncie, Indiana.

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Come on. Elmo did some awesome music videos. With Norah Jones: https://youtu.be/FEzxchU4RUY With Katy Perry: https://youtu.be/PwZnCkoX5gI And my absolute favorite, better than the original, with the Goo Goo Dolls: https://youtu.be/uGohKgNOXnU Edit... but... yes... the Elmo Numa Numa tops everything: https://youtu.be/2rAKszSX2tU (which btw, was indeed uploaded 11 years ago, but I think has an erroneous view count..)

Children's entertainment from the Mr. Rodgers era combined lessons from therapy and child psychology to act as a supplement for parenting. I'm not sure what it is now, and it's especially confusing to me why PBS would be so interested in merchandising when they're supposedly a government agency.

PBS is not a government agency. It's a non-profit funded in part (about 50%) by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. The rest of its funding is through donations and sponsorships.

The Corporation for Public Broadcasting is also a non-profit, funded solely by the federal government, but is independent from PBS and doesn't produce any programming.

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Big Bird used to clearly be the "main" or primary point-of-view character. He behaved somewhat older than the lower range of the target audience and so was a good aspirational, but not unrelatably-old, character for them. Then Elmo became highly bankable (Tickle Me Elmo) and they leaned hard on him. Elmo is... not as good for modeling behavior and interactions.

I thought you were talking about the scandal involving the Elmo voice actor...

IIRC, the scandal was baseless. I welcome corrections.

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I can't stream BBC 1 in the US either though.

I thought you could if you have an account and accept the terms (including claiming to have a television licence, which I think requires a (British) national insurance number to obtain)? Or do you mean as an American in the US?

Perhaps it's changed, but last time I looked the BBC had simple GeoIP blocking for anyone not inside the UK.

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I still just want one simple place to stream all (most, or half, even, would be great, for that matter) of Mister Rogers' Neighborhood and pre-Elmoization Sesame Street for my kids. Anything else would be a welcome bonus but I mostly just want those.

What is "pre-elmoization" Sesame Street and why do you think it's better?

For a reference essay on the shift from Big Bird to Elmo:

https://kotaku.com/how-elmo-ruined-sesame-street-1746504585

Major thesis: "It started in small ways. A lot of stories used to be based around Big Bird, who was psychologically characterized as a six-year-old. And in a lot of ways, this was ideal—six years old was on the older end of Sesame Street’s age demographic, and Big Bird served as both a role model and a peer to his audience. Big Bird’s comparative maturity also meant that he could project a wide range of emotions—he was ‘old enough’ to understand mature concepts, such as the permanence of Mr. Hooper’s death."

"Elmo stories, on the other hand, tend to affirm and celebrate the child’s perspective. Rarely, if ever, is Elmo’s innocence challenged, or is he forced to think about someone’s happiness other than his own. He spends most of his time hanging out with Zoe, Abby, Telly, and Baby Bear—Muppets who share his emotional maturity, and unlike Grover, Kermit, and Ernie, do nothing to push him. In fact, he is the de facto leader of his group—the dialogue lowers to Elmo’s level, rather than rising to an older character’s. And while this is cute and fun, it gets old fast, and it doesn’t really go anywhere. Elmo is learning about counting to four and different shapes, but he’s not learning a whole lot of life lessons."

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I wish there was a way to get all of the episodes of Mr. Rogers, especially outside of the US. Current offerings really lack the patient approach he exemplified. There's one DVD set with just 30 episodes, no digital downloads anywhere.

Daniel Tiger’s certainly no replacement for it. And heavy auto-tuning in kids’ entertainment really bugs me. Let them hear natural human voices.

Still gotta admit PBS’s current kid television is way better than anything on Disney/Nickelodeon. We only have an antenna a we watch a lot of PBS. I really, really dislike the kids shows on Disney/Nickelodeon

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Those all make the OP's point - none of them has grown-up lyrics. Compare to Dave Matthews and Grover singing about feelings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po5lHYJJQfw

“Everybody make like a train now” https://youtu.be/E4TRvYAyt3k

That's not Sesame Street. The Sesame Street Muppets were unique to the show:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sesame_Street_Muppets

Here's Johnny Cash on Sesame Street:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H75eQX006jA

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