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Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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Post by turc1656 »

faissaloo wrote: post #38
brootstrap wrote: post #37

my little sister is (or wants to be) one of these, my wife watches them on instagram. I heard one woman talking about 'instagram brows' and she was just so fucking excited about how great her face and eyebrows looked. Here is this lady with the face (i've never heard it coined like in the article but I know it) and she has (tens?) of thousands of folks staring at her reinforcing the vicous cycle. More views, more fac…

I've found it subtly unnerving and in some way boring how women are beginning to look exactly the same, it's almost like something of comparable virality to the whole flat minimal UI design meme now exists in fashion.

That's a helluva analogy. But I like it. More to the overall point, I find it incredibly ironic that while the world is constantly talking about diversity, uniqueness, and all those wonderful things, everyone is simultaneously trying to dress the same and literally look alike.

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Post by samatman »

nemo1618 wrote: post #47
reedwolf wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The concept in comic form: https://www.sparringmind.com/supernormal-stimuli/

Here's a weird idea: is music a supernormal stimulus? I mean, I listen to music constantly, every day, and I become irritable if I must go without music for long periods. It would not be a stretch to label this an addiction. Furthermore, music does not exist in our natural environment. You might protest that birdsong qualifies as music, but even granting that, birdsong bears no relation to the highly rhythmic, bass-h…

It depends on what your threshold is for supernormality.

I would say no; bone flutes are among the oldest human artifacts, we may have been making music for as long as we've been using language.

There is, on the other hand, a clear supernormal 'vibe' to pop music, which has been tuning in since the 80s. If you look at the waveform of a contemporary pop song, it looks like a brick: everything has been compressed and condensed to fill the available audioscape.

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Post by turc1656 »

brenden2 wrote: post #39

I've really improved my happiness ever since I uninstalled these apps (IG, Snapchat, etc) and never looked back. I suggest everyone do the same. They get you hooked on a dopamine drip feed, instill feelings of inadequacy, and otherwise do nothing to improve your life.

Good for you. I never had any of those types of services except for Facebook and I never used that much at all. So, I don't know what it's like to "unplug" in that regard, but I can imagine how much it must suck to be in that spiral. I think in addition to the dopamine addiction, there's also some sort of neurotic or narcissistic aspect to it as well for many. I see it all the time with people everywhere. Women on the bus are constantly on all of that shit taking selfies. Like, who the fuck needs to see you making a wannabe cute/sexy face on the bus on the way to work? And that, amazingly, isn't limited to just women in their 20s, but it does trend heavily to them.

I'm married but the concept of dating in this modern world is terrifying to me. First thing I would do would be to lookup a woman on social media to see if she's one of these crazies.

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Post by faissaloo »

nemo1618 wrote: post #45
faissaloo wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've found it subtly unnerving and in some way boring how women are beginning to look exactly the same, it's almost like something of comparable virality to the whole flat minimal UI design meme now exists in fashion.

To grossly generalize: Differentiation does not benefit females in the way it benefits males. Being "average" is a safe mating strategy for females, but not for males.

I watched this great video on it from a while back where BoyInABand goes through an OkCupid study that actually says the complete opposite (unfortunately it seems like most of OkCupid's studies just vanished from the internet at some point): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLNwa_hoz4w

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Post by SwiftyBug »

guelo wrote: post #44
nostromo wrote: post #27

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My favorite FaceTune example: https://www.instagram.com/p/BmnSLiIF-Rl/

Warning: if you click that link on some browsers it will remove your back button history by opening a new tab and killing the previous one. Instagram is aggresively user-hostile and if you work there you should feel bad.

This is disgusting.

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Post by smogcutter »

faissaloo wrote: post #54
nemo1618 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To grossly generalize: Differentiation does not benefit females in the way it benefits males. Being "average" is a safe mating strategy for females, but not for males.

I watched this great video on it from a while back where BoyInABand goes through an OkCupid study that actually says the complete opposite (unfortunately it seems like most of OkCupid's studies just vanished from the internet at some point): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLNwa_hoz4w

That okcupid stats blog was great, here’s a thread on reddit where someone archived them: https://www.reddit.com/r/gwern/comments/aapn1l/okcupid_blog_...

To sum up for parent: in okcupid’s data, women considered attractive but not super hot got fewer messages than women who were less conventionally attractive but had more polarizing photos. In other words for most women it’s a better strategy to play up a look/feature that’s unique but potentially alienating than it is to be generically attractive.

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Post by oliv__ »

smacktoward wrote: post #22

The key takeaway here isn't that "Instagram face" exists or what it looks like, but that it's a product of two factors: the emergence of less invasive plastic surgery techniques, and of software specifically dedicated to producing these faces. This being HN, the existence of the software is the really interesting bit. It's called FaceTune: > FaceTune, which was released in 2013 and promises to help you “wow your frie…

> I think ninety-five per cent of the most-followed people on Instagram use FaceTune, easily,” Smith told me.

Whenever things like this app reveal themselves to me, I feel so naive for not realizing that they even existed or that people would actually use such things.

Man I live in my own bubble...

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Post by 52-6F-62 »

Crazyontap wrote: post #41
ebg13 wrote: post #2

Because it's The New Yorker, there are no photos in the article. So if you're hoping to learn what "instagram face" actually looks like, you'll have to dig somewhere else.

I think this BBC article about the same is good for people who need the actual visuals: https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/5c237a34-7a47-4deb-a5...

That was pretty interesting and the writing was quite entertaining. Worth a read.

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Post by harryf »

smacktoward wrote: post #22

The key takeaway here isn't that "Instagram face" exists or what it looks like, but that it's a product of two factors: the emergence of less invasive plastic surgery techniques, and of software specifically dedicated to producing these faces. This being HN, the existence of the software is the really interesting bit. It's called FaceTune: > FaceTune, which was released in 2013 and promises to help you “wow your frie…

Think there’s a third underlying factor which is the addictiveness of Instagram. That Instagram becomes so important in your life that you end up changing your body for likes. That’s a terrible tragedy. You might argue that some are making a living of Instagram as influences but that’s a small percent; many more will be doing it for a desperate need for validation.

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Post by novok »

smacktoward wrote: post #22

The key takeaway here isn't that "Instagram face" exists or what it looks like, but that it's a product of two factors: the emergence of less invasive plastic surgery techniques, and of software specifically dedicated to producing these faces. This being HN, the existence of the software is the really interesting bit. It's called FaceTune: > FaceTune, which was released in 2013 and promises to help you “wow your frie…

So facetune is photoshopping magazine images of models given to the masses?
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