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If anyone is interested, there is an up and coming Clojure web framework called Coast, https://coastonclojure.com/ For those that aren’t as familiar with Clojure - there isn’t a rails or Django for web apps, so Coast is trying to fill that void.
Some of my favorite Clojure libraries in this space: - instaparse: takes EBNF (and other formats) as a string and gives you a parser instantly (!!!) https://github.com/Engelberg/instaparse - re-frame: React-Redux alternative that IMO is much easier to work with https://github.com/day8/re-frame - reagent: React wrapper https://reagent-project.github.io/ - ring https://github.com/ring-clojure/ring - fulcro https://gith…
Some of my favorite Clojure libraries in this space: - instaparse: takes EBNF (and other formats) as a string and gives you a parser instantly (!!!) https://github.com/Engelberg/instaparse - re-frame: React-Redux alternative that IMO is much easier to work with https://github.com/day8/re-frame - reagent: React wrapper https://reagent-project.github.io/ - ring https://github.com/ring-clojure/ring - fulcro https://gith…
In case anyone is interested in its ideas but is stuck with JavaScript, you may be interested in a vanilla JavaScript port I've been (very sporadically) working on: https://github.com/davezuko/re-frame. It's incomplete, and definitely lacking in many areas (documentation being the obvious one), but perhaps somebody will find it useful or want to contribute back. I've personally been using it in some internal apps for a while now.
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As someone who tries to use Clojure everywhere I can, its very hard to beat Rails for pushing out a webapp (many long Clojure timers share this opinion). Clojure shines for web services that require lots of data processing in the server and for integrating with parts of the Java ecosystem.
I have not investigated Coast yet. I know it aims to be a Rails for Clojure... maybe it is, and maybe it would meet my needs. But given the incredible power and expressiveness of Clojure, I find no reason to believe that the best rapid web development framework could be developed in Clojure if the right motivated people attempted to do so. I don't know how many people (Plataformatec?) were behind Phoenix, but even in…
After some time with Clojure, I can not bear to look at any OO code. It's like I developed an allergic reaction to class-based programming.
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It will depend on whom you talk to - perhaps how old they are, and certainly where they come from (experience wise, education wise, etc.) The usual easy excuse is about parens, but that complaint has been put to rest so many times that it's not worth replying to anymore. (And people said the same thing about Python whitespace, but now Python is at or near the top of the pile.)
Python has too few parentheses, Clojure has to many. There’s just no winning. Ultimately, these complaints are superficial and serve only to justify one’s laziness.
The parens in lisps are significantly detrimental to its first impression, and 3rd, 4th ...
I have literally never met a developer I can show a lisp code sample to whose reaction isn't "what the hell is that?"
It looks totally alien compared to C-style langs, which is what most people learn.
With Python, that is not the case at all, basic Python can be interchanged with pseudo-code for the majority of developers from C-style backgrounds.
Pretending this problem doesn't exist, only exacerbates it, and really holds back lisp adoption in my opinion.
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Python has too few parentheses, Clojure has to many. There’s just no winning. Ultimately, these complaints are superficial and serve only to justify one’s laziness.
Clojure has the same number of parens as Javascript, C/C++, Java, and similar languages have parens+squiggle-brackets. (print "foo") vs print("foo"). same same. There's so much more to it than this. I can say without reservation that people who do not take a couple/few weeks to learn a Lisp just do not know what they are missing, and their arguments against it are viewed as children who lack enough experience to know…
I am more of Scheme guy and always feel Lisp is pretty overwhelming, but this looks quite clean. I like the little language for writing HTML.
(defn inc! [id]
(kc/exec-raw (format "UPDATE articles SET count = count + 1 WHERE id = %s" id)))
After some time with Clojure, I can not bear to look at any OO code. It's like I developed an allergic reaction to class-based programming.