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Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's youngest PM

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Re: Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's youngest PM

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Post by hos234 »

wayoutthere wrote: post #33
haunter wrote: post #24

I really don't get HN sometimes. The russian doping ban article was flagged fore political, yet this one stays up even tho I feel this is more political https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21742239 And before everyone says "Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate". I'm not complaining just observing situations like this + HN lacks appropriate open ways for meta discussion (which Reddit actually does…

HN, like any subreddit, has inherent bias in its moderation. I suspect the fact that Russia was involved prompted the removal of the other story -- if I were a moderator, I would just expect any thread involving Russia and international politics to be a dumpster fire. Finland is a bit easier for Americans to avoid passionate political opinions with.

I would like a left vote/right vote.

Would be interesting to see the posts where both counts cancel under a Header of Neutral (non polarizing) content.

Similarly content(posts AND comments) getting "high" left and right counts can be sent off under separate Headers for the respective fan clubs to feast on.

Re: Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's youngest PM

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Post by sad-throwaway »

notkaiho wrote: post #50
sad-throwaway wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh there's young conservatives like myself, but there's just not many of us -- so dating and friendships are harder. I often don't have anyone to talk to about political things that get on my nerves, whereas all my non-conservative friends can talk to each other My partner is (broadly speaking) center-left, but politics is essentially a forbidden topic. It's not just venting, whenever there's some good news (e.g. a l…

Username checks out ;)

Yep... Though I'm less sad these days since I started taking SSRIs

Suggestions for a new handle?

I probably won't post on this account again, it's just I keep being conservative rather quiet and I remembered I still had this account in my password manager

Re: Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's youngest PM

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Post by mellosouls »

haunter wrote: post #24

I really don't get HN sometimes. The russian doping ban article was flagged fore political, yet this one stays up even tho I feel this is more political https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21742239 And before everyone says "Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate". I'm not complaining just observing situations like this + HN lacks appropriate open ways for meta discussion (which Reddit actually does…

To be fair (I'm the submitter) I thought of it as more of an interesting article about social progress and the leadership in some areas of countries not always in the news - rather than being a political story per se.

From the guidelines:

Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon.

(My emphasis, and I've clipped the addendum about if it would be featured on TV news it might not be relevant here).

Re: Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's youngest PM

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Post by mywittyname »

sad-throwaway wrote: post #35
sojournerc wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it really impossible? Why? Do you think there really aren't conservative young people? I somehow missed when conservative became a dirty word, and have a hard time understanding why anything right of center is "ruining" young people lives.

Oh there's young conservatives like myself, but there's just not many of us -- so dating and friendships are harder. I often don't have anyone to talk to about political things that get on my nerves, whereas all my non-conservative friends can talk to each other My partner is (broadly speaking) center-left, but politics is essentially a forbidden topic. It's not just venting, whenever there's some good news (e.g. a l…

I think you're running into a situation of geography or class. There are absolutely lots of young conservatives, but if you're not in a region with a large % of conservatives, you may not run into many of them. This especially apparent when you're college-educated person in a blue state.

Guns bring together young conservatives. Perhaps joining a shooting club will grow your circle of like-minded friends. Archery is a decent alternative if you're less than enthusiastic about guns.

Re: Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's youngest PM

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Post by notkaiho »

sad-throwaway wrote: post #52
notkaiho wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Username checks out ;)

Yep... Though I'm less sad these days since I started taking SSRIs Suggestions for a new handle? I probably won't post on this account again, it's just I keep being conservative rather quiet and I remembered I still had this account in my password manager

I wouldn't know man, I'm not politically aligned with you or know you any more than what you have posted here. But I would say that there's definitely some value to NOT bringing your gun fandom and Hayek worship to the fore in social situations. If you can't walk out of the house without your Trusty Sidearm of Destiny, you have bigger problems than that though...

Re: Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's youngest PM

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Post by sad-throwaway »

mywittyname wrote: post #54
sad-throwaway wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh there's young conservatives like myself, but there's just not many of us -- so dating and friendships are harder. I often don't have anyone to talk to about political things that get on my nerves, whereas all my non-conservative friends can talk to each other My partner is (broadly speaking) center-left, but politics is essentially a forbidden topic. It's not just venting, whenever there's some good news (e.g. a l…

I think you're running into a situation of geography or class. There are absolutely lots of young conservatives, but if you're not in a region with a large % of conservatives, you may not run into many of them. This especially apparent when you're college-educated person in a blue state. Guns bring together young conservatives. Perhaps joining a shooting club will grow your circle of like-minded friends. Archery is a…

I'm a regular at my local gun club. It's full of older folks - which is OK, but I think one needs to occasionally be around people of one's age group

I could just not be going at the right time of day, or perhaps I could join a larger club

Archery is also a good suggestion, thanks. I'll see if I can find something near by

Re: Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's youngest PM

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Post by phaemon »

toasterlovin wrote: post #38
phaemon wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most US states have a population of less than 5 million.

According to this[0], there are 23 states with a population of 5 million or more. So, roughly half of US states have a population as large as the country of Finland. Also, according to this[1], there are 9 metro areas in the US with a population of 5 million or more. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_and_territories... [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_statistic...

Well, that's my point. It's about the same size as the average US state. Any time a nordic country is mentioned, there's this same comment that it is obviously easier to do XYZ there because of the small population. Well, it must be equally easy to do it in a US state, right?

Furthermore, most countries in the world have a population less than 10 million. Finland is a normal sized country - it's the US that's anomalous in that it's more like 50 normal sized countries in a union.

Re: Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's youngest PM

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Post by sad-throwaway »

notkaiho wrote: post #55
sad-throwaway wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep... Though I'm less sad these days since I started taking SSRIs Suggestions for a new handle? I probably won't post on this account again, it's just I keep being conservative rather quiet and I remembered I still had this account in my password manager

I wouldn't know man, I'm not politically aligned with you or know you any more than what you have posted here. But I would say that there's definitely some value to NOT bringing your gun fandom and Hayek worship to the fore in social situations. If you can't walk out of the house without your Trusty Sidearm of Destiny, you have bigger problems than that though...

In the 15+ years of ridicule, armchair psychologists, and unsolicited advice that I've had to endure, this comment is definitely the most flavorful and interesting one. I like it!

I'll be sure to name my daily carry "Trusty Sidearm of Destiny"

Re: Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's youngest PM

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Post by toasterlovin »

phaemon wrote: post #57
toasterlovin wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to this[0], there are 23 states with a population of 5 million or more. So, roughly half of US states have a population as large as the country of Finland. Also, according to this[1], there are 9 metro areas in the US with a population of 5 million or more. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_and_territories... [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_statistic...

Well, that's my point. It's about the same size as the average US state. Any time a nordic country is mentioned, there's this same comment that it is obviously easier to do XYZ there because of the small population. Well, it must be equally easy to do it in a US state, right? Furthermore, most countries in the world have a population less than 10 million. Finland is a normal sized country - it's the US that's anomalo…

I would guess that if you look at the northern midwestern states (which were heavily settled by people from the Nordic countries) with a population around 5 million, most of them are as well run as Finland.

Re: Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's youngest PM

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Post by mmsimanga »

tyingq wrote: post #6
irrational wrote: post #2

That seems insanely young. I'm in my mid-40s and don't feel like I have enough life experience to run a neighborhood, much less a country.

Aside from experience, there's also the notion of a change in demeanor, to something more pragmatic and measured, that happens later in life. I don't know if there's credible research that confirms it, but it seems true...of course with notable exceptions.

In my forties there many things I know now. How to pick fights, how to see danger signs of projects (too many dependencies, too many teams involved, unclear goals), how to keep things simple, how to speak to developers and managers.
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