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Re: Amazon Kendra: Enterprise Search Service

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Interesting to see more players joining the market. You can't walk into a large Enterprise and start your search conversation with "Your developers just build ____". Otherwise customer will want to build it themselves. The killer feature I haven't seen with many of these solutions is easy, out of the box integration with internal systems (Atlassian Confluence, JIRA, Remedy, SharePoint, FileSystem, Intranet). When you…

You will need very powerful hardware to deploy the deep learning models on-prem for incremental learning. And most of the time, while not indexing, the hardware would be sitting there sleeping. Probably not very cost-effective for enterprises.

You will need very powerful hardware to deploy the deep learning models on-prem for incremental learning.

This isn't true.

I've build (neural-network) vector based search extensions for search. You don't train the model - you use a pretrained model (that understands English in your domain) and then use it as an encoder.

Sometimes there is once-off pretraining process for domain adaptation, but honestly this isn't a big deal. Even on a CPU based machine you could do this overnight or over a weekend, and since it is once off that time doesn't really matter.

Re: Amazon Kendra: Enterprise Search Service

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Coming from a Solr/Lucene/Algolia background, my opinions on this:

What's good:

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- Focused search for question and answer databases (such as customer FAQs)

- ML-based semantic search without requiring any explicit configuration

- Connectors for S3, AWS-hosted MySQL/PG, Sharepoint. Searching data already in the AWS ecosystem (S3, Aurora) is now easier, and likely faster and cheaper too in some aspects like saving incoming/outgoing bandwidth

- Document-level access control at all pricing plans

- Managed search (similar to Algolia)

What's similar to existing search systems (Solr / ES / Algolia):

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- Indexing: All data has to be processed into "field:value" structure prior to indexing

- Indexing file formats: Plain text, HTML, PDF, MS DOCX, MS PPT

- Searching: Usual boolean filters and faceting but only at field level.

- Searching: Field and value boosts for relevance, but only at index-time

- Results: Highlighting support

What's missing:

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- No multi-lingual support. Only English. Given that it's AWS, I'm very surprised by this actually (or I've missed out something in their docs)

- Can't configure text analysis for English. I feel this'll return relevant results for formal-style content, but probably not for informal-style content like emails.

- No connectors for common internal systems: Outlook, JIRA, Confluence

- No built-in support for CSV, XLS, JSON (that one's odd!). They'll all require preprocessing which means additional infra costs.

- Doesn't seem to support range- / query- facets. I feel lack of range facets is a big problem, especially for numerical data.

- No query-time relevance tuning

- No field-level access control

- Scores are not returned in results

- Common post-searching functionality is missing: rescoring, grouping, clustering

What's unknown:

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- I don't see any information about phrase or proximity searches. Of course, they are usually relevance hacks in keyword-based systems, but sometimes users really need exact phrase matches. Does their ML backend handle this somehow?

- All search systems fall short while handling proper nouns - names, places, things, scientific names. It's possible to alleviate it to some extent using part-of-speech aware indexing. Not sure if Kendra does it in its ML backend.

Re: Amazon Kendra: Enterprise Search Service

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Hey HN, we're building a similar product at https://evertrove.co -- we don't have the limits Kendra currently has, and integrate with a lot more services. We're still early and figuring out what the pricing structure should be, but we're making it a lot more competitive than Kendra is. We'd love to talk to you if you're interested in using Kendra. We're also wondering if there's more value on the Question Answering s…

How do we reach you?

Sorry, we've been having some trouble with our mail servers. Please email us at evertrove.search@gmail.com for now! Would love to hear your thoughts.

Re: Amazon Kendra: Enterprise Search Service

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Hey HN, we're building a similar product at https://evertrove.co -- we don't have the limits Kendra currently has, and integrate with a lot more services. We're still early and figuring out what the pricing structure should be, but we're making it a lot more competitive than Kendra is. We'd love to talk to you if you're interested in using Kendra. We're also wondering if there's more value on the Question Answering s…

Is this HIPAA compliant? And how do we contact you? It's a little difficult not having an email address.

Sorry about that, our mistake. Please email us at founders@evertrove.co
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