Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

Post by jlarocco » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 12:20 AM UTC

__ka wrote: post #36

I have mixed feelings about this. If you recommend DuckDuckGo, Qwant, Ecosia you're essentially recommending Bing. Each of them have to show bing ads, forward the users' IPs as per Bing's terms of service (to fight ad fraud etc). Similarly, if you recommend StartPage, you're recommending Google. Same drill with ads. I like DuckDuckGo. But unless they build their own search - I think the fundamental problem has not be…

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 12:22 AM UTC

__ka wrote: post #50

kitotik wrote: post #46

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> But unless they build their > own search IIUC, they have built their own search, but use Bing(among others) for paid ads. If this is the case, it seems that it’s the business model that needs innovation and not the search engine itself.

Try to run this test. If you query "what is my ip" in duckduckgo, or any of the other ones I mentioned, you will notice in the description of one of the top results this IP: 207.46.13.147. It's a BingBot IP [0]. It's a good enough test to spot where results are coming from. [0] https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/207.46.13.147

Post by gundmc » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 12:25 AM UTC

Post by thephyber » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 12:25 AM UTC

jlarocco wrote: post #51

__ka wrote: post #36

I have mixed feelings about this. If you recommend DuckDuckGo, Qwant, Ecosia you're essentially recommending Bing. Each of them have to show bing ads, forward the users' IPs as per Bing's terms of service (to fight ad fraud etc). Similarly, if you recommend StartPage, you're recommending Google. Same drill with ads. I like DuckDuckGo. But unless they build their own search - I think the fundamental problem has not be…

Do you have a reference about DDG using Bing? It's not mentioned on their site, or their wikipedia entry, or anywhere else I could find, and the results were different when I tried a few searches in them both just now. Are they "Using Bing" in the same sense they "Use Wikipedia" to put info boxes on the results page sometimes?

Post by Rebelgecko » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 12:26 AM UTC

liambates wrote: post #44

__ka wrote: post #36

I have mixed feelings about this. If you recommend DuckDuckGo, Qwant, Ecosia you're essentially recommending Bing. Each of them have to show bing ads, forward the users' IPs as per Bing's terms of service (to fight ad fraud etc). Similarly, if you recommend StartPage, you're recommending Google. Same drill with ads. I like DuckDuckGo. But unless they build their own search - I think the fundamental problem has not be…

Aren't DuckDuckGo searches a mixture of Bing, Yahoo, Yandex and their own crawler? I don't know a great deal about their infrastructure and would love to learn more about it.