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Re: Tesla Tripp Police Report Released

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Post by sjwright » Wed, Nov 27, 2019, 1:23 AM UTC

lordlic wrote: post #32

sjwright wrote: post #17

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Chilling? That’s normal corporate behaviour. It would be more weird if they didn’t react.

What a depressing attitude. Just because something is common doesn't mean it's acceptable.

I didn’t say it was acceptable. It’s also not acceptable for alligators to bite humans, but the appropriate solution isn’t necessarily to kill all the alligators.

Like the biology of a crocodile, this is the natural behaviour of a capitalist corporate entity under current US law. We have this set of incentives for corporations and we’re all surprised when they follow them to the letter.

Re: Tesla Tripp Police Report Released

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Post by sjwright » Wed, Nov 27, 2019, 11:01 AM UTC

nullc wrote: post #44

erulabs wrote: post #40

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> Googling briefly shows I do not understand how people can confirm their beliefs so quickly with such little effort. If a stat makes you feel good, you should probably look into more than usual. According to insideevs.com and QZ.com, in the US, there are 133,178 Leafs sold _ever_ since 2010. Since 2017, there have been 190,000 Model 3s sold. Sources: https://qz.com/1703260/teslas-model-3-may-never-catch-up-to-... ht…

Ironically, you chastise me on stats but then use a figure for the leaf half its total global sales. Nissan announced hitting 400,000 total sold in march: https://usa.nissannews.com/en-US/releases/release-a70f8c4b4e... It's a little hard to make an apples to apples comparison because tesla was apparently taking money-down preorders for years while Nissan was actually shipping cars. Shipping obviously results in insta…

Hi. I'm the person who described Tesla as making the benchmark EV. You're all completely missing the point talking about sales—the benchmark product in any given category/market is rarely the one with the highest global sales volume anyway. Most people don't want the best in a category, they want the nearest, cheapest or most convenient.

The benchmark product in any given category isn't even necessarily the best product (leaving aside the spurious nature of "best") although that's more often true.

Tesla's EV products have been the benchmark product which other EVs inevitably get compared. And we know this because every time anyone announces or releases a new EV, most commentators will benchmark it against the nearest Tesla competitor.

Re: Tesla Tripp Police Report Released

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Post by sjwright » Wed, Nov 27, 2019, 11:07 AM UTC

DanCarvajal wrote: post #42

MattRix wrote: post #30

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You don't think having much more battery production capacity or a massive network of superchargers is a significant advantage?

You don't think Toyota, Honda, Volkswagen, Hyundai, or GM couldn't do any of these things too? They're some of the largest industrial manufacturers in the world.

It'd be nice if they did.