System76 Will Start Designing and Building Its Own Linux Laptops in January 2020

Post by MikusR » Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 8:05 PM UTC

smacktoward wrote: post #33

basilgohar wrote: post #19

I love the concept of System76, full stop. What has kept me from seriously considering them, however, is the absence of AMD-powered systems from them. I understand the ubiquity of Intel-based hardware, but I don't full get why not even an option of an AMD-based system is available. If they're going to go their own way in terms of hardware design, I would hope that they at least opened a line of dialog with AMD to exp…

> I don't full get why not even an option of an AMD-based system is available. Intel has been mired in an anti-trust lawsuit in the EU for a decade now, on charges that they offer deep discounts to OEMs on the condition that they don't ship products from competitors (read: AMD) in volume. Such a program would put substantial pressure on OEMs to avoid AMD, since they'd still need to ship a large number of Intel-based…

Post by isantop » Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 8:23 PM UTC

basilgohar wrote: post #19

I love the concept of System76, full stop. What has kept me from seriously considering them, however, is the absence of AMD-powered systems from them. I understand the ubiquity of Intel-based hardware, but I don't full get why not even an option of an AMD-based system is available. If they're going to go their own way in terms of hardware design, I would hope that they at least opened a line of dialog with AMD to exp…

Post by isantop » Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 8:28 PM UTC

CivBase wrote: post #11

panpanna wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is, now there is yet another distro out there as its own island, stealing resources and not contributing to the rest of the community (including Ubuntu)

What's stopping Ubuntu from just taking back the parts of Pop!_OS they want? Assuming they actually want anything from Pop!_OS to begin with. To address your original point, I suspect it's more expensive and slower (at least, in the short term) to add features to someone else's distro than to fork it and keep building it out yourself.

Post by zozbot234 » Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 8:31 PM UTC

davidmurdoch wrote: post #40

nepeckman wrote: post #3

Awesome news. I bought a Darter Pro back in March and the experience has been great. I was a little hesitant at first because I'm not a Linux expert, but their team puts a lot of effort into making sure stuff with Pop_Os "just works." It might not be quite as polished as a macbook, but it's a comparable product at half the price, plus I get to support open source. Thelio looks amazing and I'm excited to see what they…

One of the reasons I didn't get a System76 machine was because of how Pop!_os is branded. Everything about its branding, from the name itself to even the footer background on the website looks like a complete joke to me. Of course, maybe there is a demographic that is in to this sort of branding, but I bet it's more of a detriment to overall sales than anything. Is the OS as full of seconds-long bouncy animations and…

Post by mariushn » Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 8:32 PM UTC

isantop wrote: post #53

basilgohar wrote: post #19

I love the concept of System76, full stop. What has kept me from seriously considering them, however, is the absence of AMD-powered systems from them. I understand the ubiquity of Intel-based hardware, but I don't full get why not even an option of an AMD-based system is available. If they're going to go their own way in terms of hardware design, I would hope that they at least opened a line of dialog with AMD to exp…

System76 developer here. We do offer several AMD option on our Thelio line (and they're less expensive than the corresponding Intel options, generally speaking).