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Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by colordrops »

dkhenry wrote: post #15

edit2: Nevermind all this, Brave did in fact implement protected content this earlier this year https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/413 I still can't use brave to watch netflix on Linux. Its a great product and I love shifting the incentive of advertising away from intrusive data harvesting, but treating Linux like its a second class citizen means I won't use your product. Whats worse is that Firefox is 100…

Are you referring to Widevine? Brave asks you if you want to install it rather than just assuming you want DRM out of the box.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by Drakim »

bilbo0s wrote: post #42
judah wrote: post #13

I've been using Brave rewards, both as a user and a content maker. It's really great, and I feel this may be a reasonable alternative to the invasive trackers+ads we have today. For the uninitiated, Brave lets users opt-in to Brave rewards: - You set your browser to reward content creators with Basic Attention Token (BAT). You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT/month), and Brave distributes it the sites you use most, e.g. if…

> You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT/month) What if a user doesn't earn 10 BAT a month browsing? It seems like that system would break down over time.

You aren't really meant to have a "system" of earning and spending BAT that balances each month.

The budget of BAT you set each month comes from your wallet, and is essentially your personal donation to the various websites you use, it's not related to ads. This wallet can run out in the same way any wallet can run out, and you'd have to refill it.

The BAT you can earn from seeing ads is separate and unrelated to that. Maybe it goes into the same wallet but that's not important.

You can do none of them, one of them, the other, or both, but they aren't really two related features. They both just happen to use BAT as their money mechanism.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by colordrops »

chilighost wrote: post #48

Brave was initially an interesting browser, but without any options to disable the credits/money add-ons the browser have no future.

They are opt-in and you can disable them. It seems you never tried the browser. Odd that you'd need a new account to post this.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by mdorazio »

judah wrote: post #13

I've been using Brave rewards, both as a user and a content maker. It's really great, and I feel this may be a reasonable alternative to the invasive trackers+ads we have today. For the uninitiated, Brave lets users opt-in to Brave rewards: - You set your browser to reward content creators with Basic Attention Token (BAT). You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT/month), and Brave distributes it the sites you use most, e.g. if…

I would personally much rather allocate actual dollars instead of CryptoBuckOfTheDay backed by ads I have no desire to ever watch. Say, $20/month that gets allocated to sites I visit. The whole "reward people for watching ads" model just seems... wrong.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by dub »

When the Brave folks make their speed claim, it makes me curious if they genuinely don't understand the difference between above-the-fold page render time vs how long it takes for the spinner to stop spinning. Maybe they understand the difference but prefer to point people at the spinner because it's easier for them to make changes to stop the spinner sooner.

Last time I watched one of their speed comparison videos a few months back, it had several examples where their browser was actually never the first to render the useful page content, but was usually the first to stop spinning the spinner in the top of the UI (which, naturally, is what they choose to measure and report).

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by hunterloftis »

Hamcha wrote: post #22

I've used Brave since March, and I'm really not impressed. For a browser that tries to be different, it's incredible how little consideration has been given to things that annoy users and that could probably be trivial to remove. To be more specific, my issues with Brave are: - Still uses the Chrome Web Store as main store - Does not have an easy way to load packaged extensions from 3rd party sources - Even after add…

I had the opposite take on the same product decisions.

As a long-time Chrome user, I have a set of useful extensions that have become a part of my daily browsing experience. I found converting to Brave an easy transition since everything I’m used to in Chrome is still available, right down to the developer tools.

As far as I can tell, Brave is basically Chrome with built-in Adblock and anti-tracking, plus an innovative mechanism for user-controlled advertising and content-author micropayments. I’m very impressed.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by nostrademons »

bvda wrote: post #26
judah wrote: post #13

I've been using Brave rewards, both as a user and a content maker. It's really great, and I feel this may be a reasonable alternative to the invasive trackers+ads we have today. For the uninitiated, Brave lets users opt-in to Brave rewards: - You set your browser to reward content creators with Basic Attention Token (BAT). You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT/month), and Brave distributes it the sites you use most, e.g. if…

I wonder why they chose to use (yet another) crypto currency for this.

It's also critical that it be a currency not used for any purpose other than advertising. The point of BAT is to price attention: users have the option of opting out of ads, if they do so it means less BAT available for purchase, which raises the price of BAT, which increases the rewards for opting into ads, which means more people opt in, which leads to an equilibrium price. If they had used say Monero for this, they'd really be pricing drugs and then piggybacking on that with an ad system, which would destroy any market pricing mechanism that they get.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by jeena »

judah wrote: post #13

I've been using Brave rewards, both as a user and a content maker. It's really great, and I feel this may be a reasonable alternative to the invasive trackers+ads we have today. For the uninitiated, Brave lets users opt-in to Brave rewards: - You set your browser to reward content creators with Basic Attention Token (BAT). You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT/month), and Brave distributes it the sites you use most, e.g. if…

Sounds awfully close to flattr which didn't fly.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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Post by triangleman »

_bxg1 wrote: post #35
triangleman wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I figured it out. This guy is a SJW who is offended that Brendan Eich donated $1000 to Prop 8 in California.

I mean, that was a pretty terrible thing to do and learning it does color my perception of Brave. I just wish the OP had provided that context (and they probably wouldn't have gotten so downvoted by others if they had).

How is donating money to a campaign that passed with 7 million votes a "terrible thing to do"? Are we not allowed to have an opinion that is different from the intelligentsia?

This sort of thing does color my perception of Brave in the other direction. The fact that Eich refused to "confess and recant" in the face of internet lynch mobs and getting fired as CEO of Mozilla makes him rather brave in my estimation.

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