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Re: Google algorithm change launched

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Kudos for keeping locational variety. Is there a flag/keyword we can enter into the search to ignore location?

Such a flag would be reallllllly handy. I constantly switch between google's .com/.nl sites based on what language i'm searching in and what I'm looking for.

Agreed

Re: Google algorithm change launched

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Matt, I just went through my search history because i remembered a very specific instance of seeing this. Here's the query. http://www.google.com/search?q=nstoolbar+bottom+bar&ie=u... You'll notice that efreedom.com shows on the first page with content taken directly from stackoverflow. While stackoverflow does show in the results, the exact page that efreedom copies does not. Anyway, I'm glad you guys are taking thi…

I'm seeing two SO URLs (5 and 6) before efreedom (8th) when I click that link.

Yes, but 2 things.

1. The SO results shown don't address the query I submitted as well as the efreedom one does.

2. Why doesn't the stackoverflow article that is being duped show in the results?

Re: Google algorithm change launched

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Matt, I just went through my search history because i remembered a very specific instance of seeing this. Here's the query. http://www.google.com/search?q=nstoolbar+bottom+bar&ie=u... You'll notice that efreedom.com shows on the first page with content taken directly from stackoverflow. While stackoverflow does show in the results, the exact page that efreedom copies does not. Anyway, I'm glad you guys are taking thi…

It looks like we've got SO above efreedom for that query, but it's always nice to find a url that we didn't have that we'd like to be indexed. That lets us check whether we can improve our crawling/indexing. Thanks for the example!

Yes SO is above efreedom in this instance, but the SO results are actually worse then the efreedom result based on the query.

Re: Google algorithm change launched

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Matt, this is great news. How about sites that rank well with no content, just navigation? Here's an example: http://www.collegegrad.com/entryleveljob/entrylevelaccountin... It's generally a high quality site, but that page has absolutely no relevance to the query except for a title tag and some internal anchor text. The search terms aren't even on the page. If I remember correctly, it used to rank #1 for "accounting…

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Re: Google algorithm change launched

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Matt, I just went through my search history because i remembered a very specific instance of seeing this. Here's the query. http://www.google.com/search?q=nstoolbar+bottom+bar&ie=u... You'll notice that efreedom.com shows on the first page with content taken directly from stackoverflow. While stackoverflow does show in the results, the exact page that efreedom copies does not. Anyway, I'm glad you guys are taking thi…

I'm seeing two SO URLs (5 and 6) before efreedom (8th) when I click that link.

The two SO urls that rank above the efreedom url are for different questions. The identical SO link (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3977343/nstoolbar-on-bott...) doesn't seem to show up in the results at all.

Two SO links on the first page above any efreedom urls is a positive thing, but even so, if content is apparently considered good enough to make it to the first page, it should come from the original source rather than a scraper.

Re: Google algorithm change launched

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Matt, this is great news. How about sites that rank well with no content, just navigation? Here's an example: http://www.collegegrad.com/entryleveljob/entrylevelaccountin... It's generally a high quality site, but that page has absolutely no relevance to the query except for a title tag and some internal anchor text. The search terms aren't even on the page. If I remember correctly, it used to rank #1 for "accounting…

I notice that you run a competing site to collegegrad.com - namely onedayonejob.com. Obviously you are likely to have paid attention to some of the things your competitor has been doing. But are you sure you're not just using this as an opportunity to stick it to them? If so, that would strike me as a distasteful use of this forum, especially since Matt has been very gracious to give this opportunity to the HN community.

Re: Google algorithm change launched

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Glad to see that Matt went out of his way to help us geeks and the StackOverFlow community! In the future is there going to be some way for webmasters to do something like rel="canonical" across domains so if I want to syndicate a piece of content across two properties I own I can indicate which one is the original source? My understanding is that rel="canonical" is only meant to be used between pages on the same roo…

Syndicating content across your own domains is a common practice and will not be effected by this.

Re: Google algorithm change launched

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Matt, I just went through my search history because i remembered a very specific instance of seeing this. Here's the query. http://www.google.com/search?q=nstoolbar+bottom+bar&ie=u... You'll notice that efreedom.com shows on the first page with content taken directly from stackoverflow. While stackoverflow does show in the results, the exact page that efreedom copies does not. Anyway, I'm glad you guys are taking thi…

It looks like we've got SO above efreedom for that query, but it's always nice to find a url that we didn't have that we'd like to be indexed. That lets us check whether we can improve our crawling/indexing. Thanks for the example!

The _relevant_ SO result http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1097115/bottom-bar-in-nsw... shows up in the collapsed results below the 2nd SO result!!

Re: Google algorithm change launched

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I imagine theres not much you can be specific about when talking about google's algorithm, but can you at least disclose if the identification of "original" content providers is "determined" (by some automatic process) or is it "specified" (manual intervention)? Stack overflow is an obvious benefactor of this new change, I'm just wondering if smaller content providers might benefit as well?

There's nothing manual about this. Everybody who authors their own content should be helped. :)

Re: Google algorithm change launched

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While I applaud such an improvement, I still despair over Google's inability to handle context. For instance the search phrase 'tex decorative rules' is totally miss managed. First it overrides the search and changes tex to text. Humorously enough, when you counter override back to tex, the search is even worse. We won't even speak of what happens when you change tex to latex--- porno doth ever rise to the top I guess. While we may be in a new millennium, some things remain far behind. And yes I know that things are being worked on from the those who were academic and are now working at Google, but still...
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