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Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Post by propercoil »

maxlamb wrote: post #49
propercoil wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Way colder than in Nevada. And also they already have them in Jordan next to us so that's not the culprit.

Israel may be cooler than Las Vegas but definitely warmer than Reno, NV where the gigafactory is located. Reno gets 22 inches of snow per year.

Our north snows every year and it gets really cold in the winter (the center of the country Jerusalem snows every other year too).

Also, Jordan next to us has Teslas and we have lower temperatures so it's not the climate.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Post by tnolet »

I'm curious about how the massive left/anti-fa movement in Berlin will react to this one.

They kept out Google after massive protests. Not sure this is the same thing though.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/oct/24/google-ab...

p.s. I'm based in Berlin. Have no horse in the race except that the Google office would have been right down the street of where I work.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Post by wirrbel »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #29
radicalbyte wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Talent. It's why you see clustering of industries.

Except that most automotive talent is clustered in the south of Germany (greater Stuttgart and greater Munich), not in Berlin. If you do a quick job search, those places have the most jobs in Auto and also the highest wages.

Wolfsburg ist 200km away from Berlin. Cologne has Ford, Hesse has Opel and continental, although the center of gravity is in the south, it's not like the industry doesn't have a certain spread throughout the country.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Post by mantap »

lone_haxx0r wrote: post #46
radicalbyte wrote: post #21

German labour laws are very well suited plus there labour pool of qualified people is also very large.

I would have guessed the opposite. Germany is known for having all sorts of restrictions

Cars are high-price, low-volume goods, and Tesla loves automating their factories. If you're making a car you don't want low regulation, you want highly qualified labor, and stable and predictable regulation.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Post by yorwba »

Koremat6666 wrote: post #10

Why should a GIGA factory be located near the airport and in a city ? A factory meant to mass produce something should be somewhere the land is cheap should not it be ?

The area just south of Berlin (it's not in the city) is suitable for the gigafactory for the same reason it was chosen as the site for the new airport: there's not much else there, so you can build big.

Of course that applies to many other places in Brandenburg with similar distance to Berlin, but the airport means that transportation to and from the city has been (or will be) built out for higher capacity.

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Post by Keyframe »

Traster wrote: post #36
propercoil wrote: post #24

Good strategy from Treelon overall. You'll have Tesla producing cars and employing thousands of workers in the U.S, China & Germany so that no one would stifle the company's path towards autonomous EV's. This will produce pressure on Europe to ease for instance the AI regulations and basically removed Customs tax from many other countries because Tesla can send the cars from three different locations. I just don't un…

How are the temperatures in Israel? I could imagine the summers get too hot for Tesla to guarantee battery performance?

One thing I haven't really thought of, until I recently went to Israel, is that people drive only in Israel. It's like an island. Technically, I guess, people could drive to Jordan and Egypt, but no one does that. It's a limited range then, fwiw.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Post by pjc50 »

tnolet wrote: post #52

I'm curious about how the massive left/anti-fa movement in Berlin will react to this one. They kept out Google after massive protests. Not sure this is the same thing though. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/oct/24/google-ab... p.s. I'm based in Berlin. Have no horse in the race except that the Google office would have been right down the street of where I work.

Tesla isn't particularly political and there's no Fascist angle?

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Post by seniorivn »

propercoil wrote: post #37
coldfire wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ROI may be? the market size in Israel is not as big in other countries, so it makes sense to target bigger audience first. Also does Israel have any good local EV manufacturers that can give Tesla any competition?

No competition for Tesla at all, only e-tron is selling here a bit and I think the model 3 and Y will crush it here. In terms of market size, well they have them in Jordan next to us which have the same population size and they don't have half the country working in the tech space as our GDP per capita is way higher.

Well, you probably not very interested in politics, if you was, you would know the answer...
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