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Re: PeerTube v2

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Post by krageon »

vanous wrote: post #16
kgraves wrote: post #5

Great work! This is a good YouTube alternative I can get behind, however after reading a little bit I kind of frowned at this line on the plugin paragraph. > You could also imagine plug-ins to sort videos in reverse alphabetical order, or to add a Tipee, Paypal or Patreon button below videos! Please don't consider or be tempted by those three proprietary platforms, I would much rather prefer donating using Liberapay…

Unfortunately, there is no alternative. Everybody uses PayPal or Stripe on the backend...

> Everybody uses PayPal or Stripe

Are you implying that there are literally no other payment platforms than ones that reduce to PayPal or Stripe?

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Post by Twisell »

mcjiggerlog wrote: post #38

I really want to like peertube but I think its UX, at least where it stands now, is going to hold it back from ever challenging youtube. I use youtube a lot, and for a huge range of topics. I don't have any interest in creating an account on a niche-specific instance and I think the average user who doesn't even understand what federalization does even less. However, I literally don't even understand how to make an a…

While your point is very valid it look like peertube.social isn't the got to instance as far as the v2 new information page tell.

https://peertube.social/about/instance "Peertube instance for leftist and non-commercial content. Unlimited uploads (up to 500 MB per day)"

I never used youtube account so as long as video are accessible without login on peertube it's a small bother, but yeah v3 should have some OpenID like mechanism.

Re: PeerTube v2

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Post by Hitton »

Do I understand it correctly, that the federation in this case means that I can watch video from site A on site B, while it's being hosted on A, meaning bandwidth cost for A and no ability to for instance suggest videos A hosts, show viewer advertisement, etc?

Not sure how would I like it if I hosted instance, paid storage and bandwidth costs while noone even visits my site and views all content on site with better SEO.

Re: PeerTube v2

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Post by krageon »

upofadown wrote: post #50
m12k wrote: post #6

Does anyone know of a successful server-based peer-to-peer project other than TOR and cryptocurrencies? I'm all for breaking free of the stranglehold of centralized proprietary platforms, but it also seems to me that most of the open source projects that ever really succeed at competing against entrenched proprietary incombents are the ones where a centralized service is being provided by a non-profit (e.g. Wikimedia…

>Maybe there needs to be a centralized server that is as easy to use as the proprietary ones, and then the hardcore users can set up their own and federate with the central one? I think if you take care of the basic concepts, the rest is easy. Technical details about server organization are not really that important. The root problem seems to be that people have trouble looking past the app/program that they interact…

> Perhaps we need to teach

Perhaps we need to start accepting that not everyone wants to know the particulars of the things that we care about. The need to teach new things is one of the big forces standing in the way of wide adoption of a lot of open solutions.

Re: PeerTube v2

#55

Post by yorwba »

mcjiggerlog wrote: post #38

I really want to like peertube but I think its UX, at least where it stands now, is going to hold it back from ever challenging youtube. I use youtube a lot, and for a huge range of topics. I don't have any interest in creating an account on a niche-specific instance and I think the average user who doesn't even understand what federalization does even less. However, I literally don't even understand how to make an a…

There's a list of instances that allow account creation: https://joinpeertube.org/instances#instances-list peertube.social is not one of them.

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Post by sligor »

m12k wrote: post #6

Does anyone know of a successful server-based peer-to-peer project other than TOR and cryptocurrencies? I'm all for breaking free of the stranglehold of centralized proprietary platforms, but it also seems to me that most of the open source projects that ever really succeed at competing against entrenched proprietary incombents are the ones where a centralized service is being provided by a non-profit (e.g. Wikimedia…

> Does anyone know of a successful server-based peer-to-peer project other than TOR and cryptocurrencies?

Git

Re: PeerTube v2

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Post by fghtr »

m12k wrote: post #6

Does anyone know of a successful server-based peer-to-peer project other than TOR and cryptocurrencies? I'm all for breaking free of the stranglehold of centralized proprietary platforms, but it also seems to me that most of the open source projects that ever really succeed at competing against entrenched proprietary incombents are the ones where a centralized service is being provided by a non-profit (e.g. Wikimedia…

Invisible Internet Project, i2p: https://geti2p.net.

Not sure if you would consider it successful though.

Re: PeerTube v2

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Post by inciampati »

m12k wrote: post #6

Does anyone know of a successful server-based peer-to-peer project other than TOR and cryptocurrencies? I'm all for breaking free of the stranglehold of centralized proprietary platforms, but it also seems to me that most of the open source projects that ever really succeed at competing against entrenched proprietary incombents are the ones where a centralized service is being provided by a non-profit (e.g. Wikimedia…

BitTorrent? For a while it was consuming a large fraction of the public internet bandwidth worldwide. This might still be the case.

Although paid streaming has certainly taken a chunk out of its market share, there remain to be many things that can't be had on the big streaming providers. For that, there is always the p2p system with the deepest content selection :)

Re: PeerTube v2

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Post by m12k »

inciampati wrote: post #58
m12k wrote: post #6

Does anyone know of a successful server-based peer-to-peer project other than TOR and cryptocurrencies? I'm all for breaking free of the stranglehold of centralized proprietary platforms, but it also seems to me that most of the open source projects that ever really succeed at competing against entrenched proprietary incombents are the ones where a centralized service is being provided by a non-profit (e.g. Wikimedia…

BitTorrent? For a while it was consuming a large fraction of the public internet bandwidth worldwide. This might still be the case. Although paid streaming has certainly taken a chunk out of its market share, there remain to be many things that can't be had on the big streaming providers. For that, there is always the p2p system with the deepest content selection :)

"successful server-based peer-to-peer" - it's certainly P2P, but I thought the whole point of Bittorrent was to avoid needing servers?

Re: PeerTube v2

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Post by cyborgx7 »

MayeulC wrote: post #26

I really like the platform, but I think it would shine even more with scalable video coding support, to the point that it would be a game-changer. Unfortunately, the issue was closed [1]. Do any of you know open source libraries, or documentation on SVC for mp4, VP9 or AV1? I don't think ffmpeg supports this at all, which is a shame. [1]: https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/99

Seems like cool tech, but not something that your average user would notice positively.
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