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Re: Dopamine Fasting

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Post by athenot »

basq wrote: post #42
fsiefken wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes they are violating the recommendation of Dr. Sepah's proposal and make it into a purity trip, a meditation retreat in daily life. "You don't need to “do nothing” or meditate during a dopamine fast (unless you’d like to). Just engage in regular activities that reflect your values: - Health-Promoting (exercise, cooking) - Leading (helping, serving others) - Relating (talking, bonding over activities) - Learning (re…

This is something I came to slowly realize in the search for repairing my attention/depression issues. So far I've been getting good results. It started with giving up amphetamines (adderall, vyvanse), when that didn't do the trick, I removed alcohol and caffiene from my diet. The benefits I experienced led to stop smoking marijuana as well. That one was the toughest to give up, the anhedonia was torturous. It was li…

This is an impressive change you are making, congratulations!

If you're not already doing this, I'd like to suggest journaling this effort in detail. This will be an amazing journey to look back on. And in the mean time, when things are tough it's always nice to be able to see all your accomplishments thus far.

Re: Dopamine Fasting

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Post by hprotagonist »

watwut wrote: post #49
fsiefken wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes they are violating the recommendation of Dr. Sepah's proposal and make it into a purity trip, a meditation retreat in daily life. "You don't need to “do nothing” or meditate during a dopamine fast (unless you’d like to). Just engage in regular activities that reflect your values: - Health-Promoting (exercise, cooking) - Leading (helping, serving others) - Relating (talking, bonding over activities) - Learning (re…

> Leading (helping, serving others) Helping and serving others is not leading at all. And leading is not helping and serving others.

at a minimum, a nice jewish boy from a podunk town in a roman backwater province vehemently disagrees with you. He went pretty far, too!

Re: Dopamine Fasting

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Post by goldenkey »

I have used an herb Corydalis Yanhusuo [1] a dopamine D3 antagonist [2]. I buy the plum flower brand of tea pills [3] and take the normal recommended dose. It feels like anhedonia, relaxing, sort of similar to antipsychotics if you have ever taken anything like valproic acid. Don't take an absurd much or you'll get seratonin syndrome.

p.s. it is also a great non narcotic solution for pain relief, more effective than NSAIDs alone.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corydalis_yanhusuo

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_receptor_D3

[3] https://amzn.to/36LNdJa

Re: Dopamine Fasting

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Post by criley2 »

fsiefken wrote: post #12
goactualize wrote: post #11

Terribly biased hit piece on Silicon Valley, here is my rebuttal: https://medium.com/@DrSepah/why-the-media-lies-to-you-about-...

yes they are violating the recommendation of Dr. Sepah's proposal and make it into a purity trip, a meditation retreat in daily life. "You don't need to “do nothing” or meditate during a dopamine fast (unless you’d like to). Just engage in regular activities that reflect your values: - Health-Promoting (exercise, cooking) - Leading (helping, serving others) - Relating (talking, bonding over activities) - Learning (re…

Lol I have a new food fast, but you don't have to stop eating.

You can:

* eat your normal breakfast while fasting from food

* engage in your normal lunch routines with friends while fasting from food

* have a hearty, family style dinner with your loved ones while fasting from food.

Why does this person require abuse of the term "fast"? Fast means to abstain, but the entire list includes point for point the opposite of "abstaining" from dopamine. Exercise releases dopamine. Learning and creativity release it. Helping others release it. It's not a fast, and anyone who calls it that is just lying (or abusing our language in a very doublespeak 1984 kind of way, "eating is fasting" kind of way)

This comes across as a ridiculous fad with better branding than substance.

Re: Dopamine Fasting

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Post by lotsofpulp »

solidasparagus wrote: post #29
goactualize wrote: post #11

Terribly biased hit piece on Silicon Valley, here is my rebuttal: https://medium.com/@DrSepah/why-the-media-lies-to-you-about-...

I find that graph of media consumption outrageously hard to believe. The average person spends 11 out of 24 hours every day consuming media? People average 4 hours a day watching TV and 1.75 hours a day listening to the radio?

Instagram/reddit/Snapchat/tik tok/forwarded whatsapp videos/hacker news/audio books/music are all media. And with a device that enables 24/7 consumption literally on a person 24/7, I don’t doubt it.

Re: Dopamine Fasting

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Post by [deleted] »

basq wrote: post #42
fsiefken wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes they are violating the recommendation of Dr. Sepah's proposal and make it into a purity trip, a meditation retreat in daily life. "You don't need to “do nothing” or meditate during a dopamine fast (unless you’d like to). Just engage in regular activities that reflect your values: - Health-Promoting (exercise, cooking) - Leading (helping, serving others) - Relating (talking, bonding over activities) - Learning (re…

This is something I came to slowly realize in the search for repairing my attention/depression issues. So far I've been getting good results. It started with giving up amphetamines (adderall, vyvanse), when that didn't do the trick, I removed alcohol and caffiene from my diet. The benefits I experienced led to stop smoking marijuana as well. That one was the toughest to give up, the anhedonia was torturous. It was li…

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Re: Dopamine Fasting

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Post by ddorian43 »

CPLX wrote: post #44
basq wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is something I came to slowly realize in the search for repairing my attention/depression issues. So far I've been getting good results. It started with giving up amphetamines (adderall, vyvanse), when that didn't do the trick, I removed alcohol and caffiene from my diet. The benefits I experienced led to stop smoking marijuana as well. That one was the toughest to give up, the anhedonia was torturous. It was li…

Do intense physical exercise, that’s the missing link in your plan. You’ve got basically all the other key parts in place.

Some martial art (a real one) like muay-thai (no need for fights) works really good for this.

Re: Dopamine Fasting

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Post by Nasrudith »

solidasparagus wrote: post #29
goactualize wrote: post #11

Terribly biased hit piece on Silicon Valley, here is my rebuttal: https://medium.com/@DrSepah/why-the-media-lies-to-you-about-...

I find that graph of media consumption outrageously hard to believe. The average person spends 11 out of 24 hours every day consuming media? People average 4 hours a day watching TV and 1.75 hours a day listening to the radio?

I suspect that may be device level consumption accounting as opposed to actual focus (which is hard to measure) at best. At worst it is human memory which is even worse.

Re: Dopamine Fasting

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Post by chrisweekly »

watwut wrote: post #49
fsiefken wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes they are violating the recommendation of Dr. Sepah's proposal and make it into a purity trip, a meditation retreat in daily life. "You don't need to “do nothing” or meditate during a dopamine fast (unless you’d like to). Just engage in regular activities that reflect your values: - Health-Promoting (exercise, cooking) - Leading (helping, serving others) - Relating (talking, bonding over activities) - Learning (re…

> Leading (helping, serving others) Helping and serving others is not leading at all. And leading is not helping and serving others.

If you're ever in a management position, I hope for your sake -- and your subordinates' -- you outgrow that notion.
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