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Encrypted web traffic now exceeds 90%

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Re: Encrypted web traffic now exceeds 90%

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It's probably more attributed to browsers marking non-https as 'Not Secure' than anything but LetsEncrypt definitely has had a substantial impact to make that change possible.

> It's probably more attributed to browsers marking non-https as 'Not Secure' Browsers couldn't have done that if https wasn't free and simple for servers.

Never thought I'd see a world where that was the reality, nice to appreciate really.

Re: Encrypted web traffic now exceeds 90%

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Is a LetsEncrypt certificate "just as secure" as other certs? I have to imagine the answer is "no" simply because LetsEncrypt is free and the other certs aren't -- what more do you get by paying for a cert?

It is just as secure, you get nothing more by paying.

Nothing of value, but there usually is some (silly, IMO) justification, such as badges and warranty (practically useless). Funnily, Comodo starts its list of key features with "value" [0]. They also seem more expensive now than I remember them to be (hundreds of USD per certificate/year), and still call both X.509 and TLS "SSL".

Sometimes I hear about people just looking for "SSL certificates" because somebody told them that they should have one, and search engines would lead them to those websites; probably that's how it still works.

[0] https://ssl.comodo.com/sslcomodo-ov-wildcard

Re: Encrypted web traffic now exceeds 90%

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It is just as secure, you get nothing more by paying.

So for my personal projects, I use lets encrypt. As far as I know (and I could be wrong now, haven't checked in a while) - their certs are only good for 3 months. Which is simple enough to get around - run a script on your box that updates the cert every 90 days automatically. At work, we use a paid certificate that is good for a longer period of time (normally a year). So that's one benefit to paying, I suppose. As…

Usually you set up auto-renewal with lets encrypt. Easier than remembering to renew every year.

Re: Encrypted web traffic now exceeds 90%

#56

To the 90%: if you've got nothing to hide then why are you encrypting your traffic?

Probably sarcasm but...why shut the door when you're in the bathroom?

I like this analogy. We all know what goes on inside a bathroom, it's not really a secret. But it is private. There is a difference between secrecy and privacy, and this analogy captures the difference well.

I think I first heard the analogy in Cory Doctorow's presentation The Coming Civil War over General-purpose Computing, which was ironically given at Google. I highly recommend people watch it.

Re: Encrypted web traffic now exceeds 90%

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It is just as secure, you get nothing more by paying.

So for my personal projects, I use lets encrypt. As far as I know (and I could be wrong now, haven't checked in a while) - their certs are only good for 3 months. Which is simple enough to get around - run a script on your box that updates the cert every 90 days automatically. At work, we use a paid certificate that is good for a longer period of time (normally a year). So that's one benefit to paying, I suppose. As…

They have a built in command for their 'certbot' cli now that you can use to have your certificates update automatically.

(It's been a bit sinse I went through it but I think it may be as simple as a extra flag in the command to generate the inital cert)

Re: Encrypted web traffic now exceeds 90%

#59
No, it didn't. NetMarketShare has a very limited view into these things. Actual data from browser makers

Firefox - 80% https://letsencrypt.org/stats/

Google -- 88% on Android; 84% on Windows; 91% on Mac; 73% on Linux https://transparencyreport.google.com/https/overview?hl=en

Re: Encrypted web traffic now exceeds 90%

#60
While this milestone is wonderful, don't forget that it can't be decrypted for now. IMO we trust contemporary encryption algorithms too much, putting too much data through the wires that will only increase in value. We aren't at the end of the evolution either: we still don't have really secure random generators everywhere, we are still using key exchange methods that aren't quantum proof. And of course, computer programs (as well as hardware) still have security bugs.
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